StefanAVFC Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 In addition to the previous: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Bloody EU, negotiating in bad faith again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 In order to leave the EU we have to have a border somewhere. It can be in sea between UK/Ireland - Breaking up UK It can be between Northern Ireland/Ireland - Breaking up Ireland It can be between Ireland and Europe - Breaking up EU It can only be one of those options. 4 years on and we still haven't decided which one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 They're attempting to force what they want, which is a no deal scenario. They don't really give a **** about a border. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 In 2018 I was trying to explain to work colleagues why the border issue was unsolveable so I drew this on a whiteboard. I'm pretty sure it's still the same problem. (At the time it was Arlene and Theresa) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, villaglint said: In order to leave the EU we have to have a border somewhere. It can be in sea between UK/Ireland - Breaking up UK It can be between Northern Ireland/Ireland - Breaking up Ireland It can be between Ireland and Europe - Breaking up EU It can only be one of those options. 4 years on and we still haven't decided which one. Easily solved remember. We'll have a technomological border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, darrenm said: In 2018 I was trying to explain to work colleagues why the border issue was unsolveable so I drew this on a whiteboard. I'm pretty sure it's still the same problem. (At the time it was Arlene and Theresa) Pretty much. Basically "choose one dotted red line to make solid" Or, make the solid line a dotted red one. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Henry VIII caused all this with his randyness. Follow the line back and it all goes to him wanting to give Anne Boleyn one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Easily solved remember. We'll have a technomological border. Funnily enough I work in the SaaS/software start up industry and I attended a virtual event a few weeks back that was kind of like Dragons Den for SaaS companies. Basically pitching to a bunch of VCs and then answering questions etc. There was a company on there that had an AI solution for doing Customs checks. Basically it learnt from customs officers currently doing the job and could do a 5 min job in seconds making less errors than a human. Wouldn't solve the need for a border but would solve the turning Kent into a car park thing. Be interesting to see if it goes anywhere or whether there are any hidden moats they are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, villaglint said: Basically it learnt from customs officers currently doing the job and could do a 5 min job in seconds making less errors than a human. As someone that's been on the end of snake oil AI sales pitches more times than I can count, I'd be very interested in seeing the parameters for their testing of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 It's solvable if you refuse to accept it as a problem. Which is exactly what the government is going to do, because for what they want, a no deal, it's not a problem, and any issues that arise aren't something that bothers them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Working in SaaS/PaaS, AI promises a lot and once it goes live, it's shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 Working in the insurance industry, I see AI based IT risks and immediately look for where the bollocks begins and problems start. It's normally pretty early in the proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I wrote an 'algorithm' to automatically mark scores in a quiz. You could market this as an AI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 AI created by RS (Realistic Stupidity) always seemed the way it went. While I was still able to work, it seemed that AI / Machine Learning was the default way to go. Whatever the question the answer was always AI/ML. Anyone tried to train one of these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, darrenm said: I wrote an 'algorithm' to automatically mark scores in a quiz. You could market this as an AI Nice bit of Python 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 17, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Chindie said: the government...because for what they want, a no deal, it's not a problem, and any issues that arise aren't something that bothers them. I don't see it like that. Sure a small number of imbecilic throbbers might want no deal, but the government absolutely wants a deal, desperately. They want all this to go away and things to be more or less ok. The problem they've got themselves into is that whatever path they follow things will not be ok. So they're trying to force or push back against the walls of the cell they locked themselves in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, darrenm said: Henry VIII caused all this with his randyness. Follow the line back and it all goes to him wanting to give Anne Boleyn one. If only. Gotta go further back for the start of England causing headaches in Ireland. Henry II was the first king of England to invade us, and he wasn’t even English! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I, for one, am sure it was worth it. Look at all we've got for it. There's not much tangible, I admit, but I can hold my head high while I walk through the ethnic aisle at Tesco. Quote Brexit has now cost more than the International Space Station – and it continues to rocket "We could all have free groceries for a year for the cost of Brexit." The cost of Brexit to the UK economy has exceeded the International Space Station (ISS), according to new research – and it continues to rocket. A report from Bloomberg Economics estimates that Brexit has set Britain back to the tune of £130 billion and is likely to top £200 billion by the end of the year. By comparison, the ISS cost £115 billion, putting the damaging impact of the exit into context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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