Xela Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 13th or 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Must admit I don't share the concerns over the defence. Outside a handful of Clubs every set of fans has doubts about their defences, basically because the standard of defending generally is not especially high. IMO it is more important ( for the increase from 17 th to 10 th) to score a few more and generally have a midfield that causes problems for the opposition - this helps the defence hugely and we've lacked it - and I think we will do that. "The final ball" and " dodgy defence" will always dominate fans concerns but its the same for most clubs, and I don't think we'll have the first of those problems as much as some other sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 12th or 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) I personally think people are putting way too much stock in a few preseason games where we played a mixture of kids, unfit players, new signings and ended with a central defensive partnership of Baker and Sanchez. Edited August 2, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) The central defence as it stands is worrying. If we fix that problem and sign a good centre half (or two), and bring in another striker, I actually think we could be dark horses for tenth. Edited August 2, 2015 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 The central defence as it stands is worrying. If we fix that problem and sign a good centre half (or two), and bring in another striker, I actually think we could be dark horses for tenth. Haha, heady days! (I agree) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted August 2, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2015 As long as we're not in the relegation conversation at the business end of the season, I'd be happy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Around 12th aswell, would be happy to be nowhere near relagation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Must admit I don't share the concerns over the defence. Outside a handful of Clubs every set of fans has doubts about their defences, basically because the standard of defending generally is not especially high. IMO it is more important ( for the increase from 17 th to 10 th) to score a few more and generally have a midfield that causes problems for the opposition - this helps the defence hugely and we've lacked it - and I think we will do that. "The final ball" and " dodgy defence" will always dominate fans concerns but its the same for most clubs, and I don't think we'll have the first of those problems as much as some other sides. I think this comes down to people believing the symptoms and the illness are one and the same. Giving up goals? Defense must be terrible. Not scoring? Need a new striker. The real problem for us the last several years, IMO, has been the midfield. Tim has taken great lengths to improve that part of the squad this season, and I think those improvements will pay off for both the defense and attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Top ten for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 2, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2015 Some ups, some downs, some maulings, 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I fear we'll lose to Bournemouth and well Man. United at home whatever their state just tends to look after itself dosen't it? I dread to think what this thread and forum will look like if we lose our first two. To me our season properly starts at Palace. Palace, Sunderland, Leicester and West Brom. I'd start getting concerned if we'd don't get 7-8 points from those 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I fear we'll lose to Bournemouth and well Man. United at home whatever their state just tends to look after itself dosen't it? I dread to think what this thread and forum will look like if we lose our first two. To me our season properly starts at Palace. Palace, Sunderland, Leicester and West Brom. I'd start getting concerned if we'd don't get 7-8 points from those 4 games. Our season starts against Bournemouth and ends against Arsenal. Bournemouth is a game we should be winning comfortably if we want to move forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 It's only one game though...we beat Arsenal away two seasons back and I thought we were going to have a really good season, didn't even reach 40 points and barely stayed up. Similarly we've lost opening games before and finished top 8, I remember that season in the 90s when we lost opening 4 games under Sir Brian Little and still finished 7th although that was with a change of manager halfway through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I fear we'll lose to Bournemouth and well Man. United at home whatever their state just tends to look after itself dosen't it? I dread to think what this thread and forum will look like if we lose our first two. To me our season properly starts at Palace. Palace, Sunderland, Leicester and West Brom. I'd start getting concerned if we'd don't get 7-8 points from those 4 games. Our season starts against Bournemouth and ends against Arsenal. Bournemouth is a game we should be winning comfortably if we want to move forward. I agree with the main sentiment, every game counts, and we should be beating Bournemouth. I think though most of us recognise that getting them first game isn't like getting them in January, especially as they are at home. Their fans, and players, will be more up for this game than any other except Southampton and maybe Man United, so I actually think a draw would be a very good result, and a defeat as long as we play well would be acceptable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I think 11th with a hope for around 7th but I'd just take avoiding the relegation scrap entirely for this year if I'm honest. One thing that does please me is that if/when it should all suddenly go to shit with Sherwood there is now a squad of players there that any number of managers should be able to get a lot out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 16th. Big improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 14th. Clinching survival on the penultimate weekend of the season. Top scorer to be Gestede with 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 No way to tell before seeing who else we get in defence. At the moment about 12th. If we get 1 or 2 really good defenders and a good winger/forward, top half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 2, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 2, 2015 As long as we're not in the relegation conversation at the business end of the season, I'd be happy. Exactly. The money we've spent this summer isn't going to propel us into nosebleed territory, it's what we needed to do in order to at least be competitive. In car terms, we're now roadworthy rather than the MOT failure we've been for the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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