Condimentalist Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If the mooted deal is £5m plus Taylor that's dreadful from us. Taylor is worth probably 2-3m, so we should be looking at 8-10 in addition for Ayew. I think we've been quite shrewd on the whole this window but perhaps not here. For all his faults I like Ayew. I'll reserve judgement on this deal until I see what replacements are coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If Bruce doesn't want him then we need to ship him out - he's probably on a fair old wage that would be better spent on someone that Bruce wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PatrickCousens said: If the mooted deal is £5m plus Taylor that's dreadful from us. Taylor is worth probably 2-3m, so we should be looking at 8-10 in addition for Ayew. I think we've been quite shrewd on the whole this window but perhaps not here. For all his faults I like Ayew. I'll reserve judgement on this deal until I see what replacements are coming in. I like him but he's definitely not worth £12m. £8m is about right. I wouldn't have taken double that in the summer, but he hasn't pulled up any trees. Though he is an asset from the bench. At £8m I rate him, but he's a squad player at a mid table championship club for a reason. Perhaps he can find that consistency elsewhere but I don't expect him to be amazing. I expect he will be a squad player at a relegation threatened Premier League club instead. As long as we replace him, all good. Good luck to the lad. Edited January 30, 2017 by dont_do_it_doug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I like Ayew but he has remained a 'what might be' player. No real problem with us effectively getting close to our money back particularly if, as one would imagine, either the player or Manager have a preference that he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Patrick van Aanholt is going for 14M ffs. No way in hell is Ayew worth 8M in today's market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Patrick van Aanholt is going for 14M ffs. No way in hell is Ayew worth 8M in today's market. What are we basing this valuation on? I like Ayew but regardless of that you can't realistically demand more for a player who isn't a regular starter for a mid table Championship club. In my opinion. I don't think it's a great deal, I'd like a couple of million more, but it is what it is. Edited January 30, 2017 by dont_do_it_doug. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Bizarrely his attitude was pretty excellent (for the most part) when the club was in the biggest mess it's ever been. We finally start to turn the corner in terms of structure and organisation and his heads gone down. All about personalities Bruce hasn't been a fan from day 1 and Ayew hasn't done anything to change his mind. Has the ability to be the best player in this league. Really not an intelligent player though and definitely not a fan of passing which will mean he'll never make the most of that talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, PatrickCousens said: I think we've been quite shrewd on the whole this window but perhaps not here. For all his faults I like Ayew. I'll reserve judgement on this deal until I see what replacements are coming in. Depends what we do with the 5 mill we bring in on top of Taylor. In our best team Ayew doesn't start. If selling him helps bring in a forward who will then that this will be good business. Edited January 30, 2017 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Of course one would hope we are very sure of getting a replacement though. If we leave ourselves with - effectively - just Kodja it'd be a monumental mistake. Hence I'm sure Bruce must have his man/men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, dont_do_it_doug. said: What are we basing this valuation on? I like Ayew but regardless of that you can't realistically demand more for a player who isn't a regular starter for a mid table Championship club. In my opinion. I don't think it's a great deal, I'd like a couple of million more, but it is what it is. I'm not sure us being in the Championship has much bearing on it considering how much money we have. Also the fact that Ayew is a PL quality player, it shouldn't really factor in his fee imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I'm not sure us being in the Championship has much bearing on it considering how much money we have. Also the fact that Ayew is a PL quality player, it shouldn't really factor in his fee imo. The problem is that he's not even a regular at a mid table Championship club, so that's almost certainly going to put a drag on his value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 30, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 30, 2017 Has he gone yet? Honestly, no time for the guy. I'll be very happy to see him move on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: I'm not sure us being in the Championship has much bearing on it considering how much money we have. Also the fact that Ayew is a PL quality player, it shouldn't really factor in his fee imo. We'll have to agree to disagree then. They're talking about that sort of fee for Scott Hogan, who has scored 14 goals this season. He has Premier League clubs fighting over him, I don't think Premier League clubs are fighting over Ayew. I guess we could keep an unhappy player who I don't think the manager rates, but that seems unwise. Or having money it means we can afford to take a small hit to move him and his wages off the books? Big clubs do this often enough. I'd rather we were able to shift Richards or McCormack, but to be players in the game we must remain active rather than reactive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I like him but he's definitely not worth £12m. £8m is about right. I don't know. But I think football valuations are a mess. Fulham rate that Barrow at £15m and he's not as good as Ayew in any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewFromT2 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Shaun Teale has just put this argument to bed once and for all on Twitter! Takes a player to know a player! Edited January 30, 2017 by ViewFromT2 added image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Has decent ability but can't imagine him ever really being a top, consistent player. Think the deal is fine, wouldn't have been too disappointed with just 5 million alone, He's just a bit nothingy here. So not too bothered all in all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'd like to see Ayew playing with better players around him. He honestly might have been selfish because he knew if he passed to to our midfield, it will just end up back at Gollini. I think he deserves a fair chance. He has the ability to change a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Sad about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If we're even close to getting our initial investment back on this one we're doing well imo. But then like trent it's pretty obvious I don't like him. Nice goal for Ghana though. Nice answer to their fans getting on his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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