Vive_La_Villa Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Nah, that is still "not everything is so black and white". It's not overused when it's relevant to so many threads. Although to be fair the old "how far we've fallen line" gets trotted out 100 times more. When these phrases are no longer seen it will either be because we're a half decent team again or because there is an all round acceptance of no longer being a big club. Hope it's not the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think UK based means British, or all British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Give me a Russian despot or an Arab oil man any day of the week to be fair. I've done my time. P.S. we really haven't fallen very far at all. Edited March 30, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 To me a uk based buyer is now more likley. The idea of a foreign investor coming in and pumping in loads of money to makes us CL is fraught with problems - not only FFP - but that the big 4 are so far ahead of us now.... To me the people who are are now likley to be intersted in buying Aston Villa are wealthy supporters - who can raise money via a consortuim - on the one hand they wouldn't have millions - but on the other they may run us better which feasibly has to be our best hope ...... Nicholas Padfield lead such a consortuim last time - and is still a regular at Villa Park Howard Hodgson - is another who may possibly lead a consortuim Or as others have suggested Tom Fox may have some contacts - although that seems a long shot IMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Just because new owners might reside in the UK doesn't mean to say they'll be skint or anything, there are plenty of people and groups based there, with a lot of money. Edited March 30, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The rag the sun thinks we are talking with Americans all seems like guess work to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 On the subject of being a Man City MK II & the plastics it would inevitably attract, i would say i'd be a little embarrassed in one way, as a fan who started to support this club when it was in division 3 in the 70's (surely the polar opposite of a plastic fan?), but then i also think that to be competitive in 2015 onwards you have to have a large Worldwide fan base to provide sufficient income to enable the club to be competitive on the World stage, as in competing in the Champions League etc. Otherwise with FFP (Financial Foul Play as i call it) there is no possibility whatsoever for any sustained success. So i think the time has come to move with the times, embrace the change needed to allow this club to move on! I'm a great believer that if you don't move with the times you get left behind very quickly, i'll give computers as an example. Many people say things like "Oh i never use those computer things" and then proceed to give 100 reasons why they're a bad thing & thats fine... but they will get left behind and i've seen them lose their jobs and get forgotten about very quickly as a result!! We are at a similar juncture with regards to what is required to be competitive in football, in fact i'd say we are already lagging well behind because sadly whilst all this change was going on we had a certain Doug Ellis in charge and we fell far, far behind with antiquated thinking being nowhere near enough to keep the club competitive, Lerner came in and found out that the gap was already too big for him, a Billionaire, and the only way we can catch up is with a much more savvy Billionaire who can compete with the wealth of clubs like Liverpool & Arsenal & Spurs at the very least. I cannot see any way otherwise to move forwards as you simply end up building a team then lose all your players to higher bidders!..A treading water situation which is what we've had for 35 years now! So bring on the Man City mkII for me & i'll welcome the "Plastics" & overseas growth that'll bring because us genuine fans will still be there regardless and we'll know who we are 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2015 As much as i want us to be succesfull, id hate to see glory hunters flock to AVFC Plastic fans is the worst thing i know. I couldn't care less if it meant we were a top team again. This. **** being Man City Mk. II tbh. For those who don't want to see the best players in the world, title winning seasons and champions league games at Villa Park. Not to mention the best youth facilities in the country and a structure in place to create their own brand of football and talented players as well as making the club a worldwide brand producing massive amounts of revenue. I wouldn't worry to much as FFP will make sure this will never happen. so you can relax and continue to enjoy relegation battles and maybe one day consistent mid table success again. Imagine if there was a middle ground between being the next Man City and continuing relegation battles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 So The Sun reporting we are in talks with an American Consortium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Apparenly The Sun are saying that Todd Boehly and Henry SIlver are interesed both have connections to the Guggenheim Group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Also the both of them have connections to Cain Hoy Enterprises who are said to have tried to buy Tottenham and who's main main Jonathon Goldstein is a Tottenham fan. Maybe that's where the Sherwood connection comes from. They fit the bill as being a UK based company but with US connections as well via Silverman and Boehly.. Edited March 30, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 i really doubt any potential buyer is picking a manager. especially as such an unknown in the managing world like sherwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2015 You've all misunderstood. We aren't being taken over. We've been overtaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 You've all misunderstood. We aren't being taken over. We've been overtaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Give me a Russian despot or an Arab oil man any day of the week to be fair. I've done my time. P.S. we really haven't fallen very far at all. I think I disagree with the idea of a sugar daddy I don't want us ending up like Man City. Playing in a historyless bowl named after an airline with empty seats at champions league matches. I'd much rather be in southamptons shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 be southampton who win nothing and miss out on champions league or be city and play in CL and win silverware hmm i wonder which i would choose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 be southampton who win nothing and miss out on champions league or be city and play in CL and win silverware hmm i wonder which i would choose! I think you kinda missed the point I was making. I just don't want us picking up a load of plastic fans. I hate Chelsea and City. I don't want to become them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 For me the idea of not wanting us to be succesful because we might gain a few 'plastic fans' is a really strange position to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 be southampton who win nothing and miss out on champions league or be city and play in CL and win silverware hmm i wonder which i would choose! I think you kinda missed the point I was making. I just don't want us picking up a load of plastic fans. I hate Chelsea and City. I don't want to become them. You don't want success for the club that you support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 In football today, success and plastic fans go hand in hand, you cannot have one without the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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