sexbelowsound Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 There's no chance Fox allows Sherwood to completely change the squad and back room staff and then sacks him 8 games in. Keep the hate going boys, he'll be given a fair chance to succeed or fail.Thr new Richard, No disrepect Rich.Gotta give Jonah credit, when he is in, he is all in. Absolutely no fence sitting, right or wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 There's no chance Fox allows Sherwood to completely change the squad and back room staff and then sacks him 8 games in. Keep the hate going boys, he'll be given a fair chance to succeed or fail.Thr new Richard, No disrepect Rich.if I'm saying this in 2 years time then maybe a good comparison. It's been 8 games with his squad. Let's face it, you'd be posting the same cry moan whoever was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 5 defeats in 7 is shocking, new players or not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I thought Sherwood was going to bring attacking football to Villa park.Not enjoying what I'm seeing from him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 seems like hes lost most people on here already. all i know is that hes spent a lot of money and we are no better off than we were under lambert in terms of results and performance but on paper it seems we have a better team which counts for naff all. i was not sure about his appointment but my biggest concern was if we got off to a bad start(which we have) that he would not be able to handle the pressure and the fans would turn on him pretty quickly which i think is starting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I actually think Lerner could act pretty quickly if things go on purely because it worked last season.And isn't this THE season to stay in the Premier League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Don't let the late rally when we had nothing to lose fool anyone. Liverpool were totally there for the taking, we lacked the game-plan to exploit it. This was a game where all the pressure was on them open the game. Just had to have a sound defensive structure (which we did in the first-half) and hit on the counter. This got me thinking, why can't Sherwood implement an effective counter approach? Obviously you don't want us to revert to the one-dimensional counter-attacking side we were previously but there are games in which it is our best shot (cup final screams out) and we just don't do it. The only game under this manager I can think of in which we did was Spurs away. But anyway, this will be one of the most winnable of our upcoming fixtures and we messed it up, so God knows where the win will come from. Stoke absolutely must-win. Fail to win and I'm afraid to say that idealism goes out of the window when it comes to affording the manager his due time.I think Sherwood would've implemented a counter-attacking approach if he had the right players fit for it. To me, Gabby and Traore would've been perfect against Liverpool - but he was (essentially) without both of them. I have no real problems with the lineup or tactics today to be honest. Potentially should've played Gil instead of Sinclair, but I was happy to see the 3 central midfielders play and I think that was the right defensive lineup too.We played in that manner (counter-attacking) against Leicester and it worked a treat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 26, 2015 Author Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2015 He's got two and a half years on his contract so it'd cost us a good £10m with his staff too. I can't see the club being willing to spend that right now. Gilded armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 There's no chance Fox allows Sherwood to completely change the squad and back room staff and then sacks him 8 games in. Keep the hate going boys, he'll be given a fair chance to succeed or fail.Thr new Richard, No disrepect Rich.Gotta give Jonah credit, when he is in, he is all in. Absolutely no fence sitting, right or wrong.i don't think Sherwood is some sort of messiah. Whoever we'd got I'd be all for giving them time with their squad. Absolutely ridiculous to look at our last 5 years and demand the manager is sacked 8 games into major changes within the squad and coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 There's no chance Fox allows Sherwood to completely change the squad and back room staff and then sacks him 8 games in. Keep the hate going boys, he'll be given a fair chance to succeed or fail. Thr new Richard, No disrepect Rich. if I'm saying this in 2 years time then maybe a good comparison. It's been 8 games with his squad. Let's face it, you'd be posting the same cry moan whoever was in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted September 26, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Colours nailed to the sherwood out mast After 9 games with his own team really? interesting from a supporter who backed his predecessor right up until his last breath despite over 2 and half seasons of tripe but each to their own.I am as pissed of as anyone with our start but a little perspective is needed. Including the subs we used today we used seven players who have been here five minutes. Five of them who had never kicked a ball in the Premier League before. It was always going to take time for the team to gel and for the manager to decide on his best team and formation. I actually think we have played really well in spells this season.There is of course a chance that things might not click and that the manager might be out of depth but after nine games (3 wins, a draw and four defeats) it is way too early to be calling for the managers head. As was the case with Lambert when that times comes I'll be as vocal as any supporter in wanting the manager out but that time is not now. Not even close in fact. As hard as it is given the crap served up over the last 4 or 5 seasons now is the time for a little patience with what is still a relatively new manager and a dozen new players who can't be blamed for what went before them and shouldn't be suffering the hangover from some supporters. Lets give them all a fair crack of the whip. Edited September 26, 2015 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Reminds me of Southgate at Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 26, 2015 Why the defensive tactics Tim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Tactically very poor today ..... VERY poor !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 There's no chance Fox allows Sherwood to completely change the squad and back room staff and then sacks him 8 games in. Keep the hate going boys, he'll be given a fair chance to succeed or fail.Thr new Richard, No disrepect Rich.Gotta give Jonah credit, when he is in, he is all in. Absolutely no fence sitting, right or wrong.i don't think Sherwood is some sort of messiah. Whoever we'd got I'd be all for giving them time with their squad. Absolutely ridiculous to look at our last 5 years and demand the manager is sacked 8 games into major changes within the squad and coaching staff.It was a compliment you silly sod. Take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I like this idea that we're so good now our manager costs us when we leave anfiels with 0 points.I'm not sure if you watched the game, but he absolutely cost us points today with his tactics. Liverpool's defence was shocking, looked at sixes and sevens whenever we attacked but our tactics seemed to be to attack and test their defence as little as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 What happened to the Tim Sherwood that set us up perfectly and battered Liverpool and Man City last year? If I didn't know better, I would have thought that was Lambert out there today all timid on the touchline and not even getting out of his seat. Very odd, I hope he isn't slowly retreating into his shell like Lambert was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 The thing is, we know were going nowhere, Sherwood knows he isnt up to it, the board know hes not up to but they also know that they cant sack him until it gets to dire straits or the media etc will say Sherwood isnt given a chance. A manager is either good enough or he isnt, black and white. A 5 game stretch doesnt change that. He's not good enough, never will be. Get rid now so were not marooned in the relegation zone in January leaving the new guy with no time to change it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) But anyway, this will be one of the most winnable of our upcoming fixtures and we messed it up, so God knows where the win will come from. Stoke absolutely must-win. Fail to win and I'm afraid to say that idealism goes out of the window when it comes to affording the manager his due time.Ludicrous. Liverpool were excellent today, and Sturridge amazing. The Reds started the game on fire. We have no player yet on par with Sturridge.I didn't like the game plan from Tim, and I didn't like how our defenders and midfield got punch drunk and aimless at the end, but to act like Liverpool is some kind of pub team ... Edited September 26, 2015 by Plastic Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 This is pure speculation but I wouldn't be surprised if we've already made tentative contact with Allardyce or at the very least discussed it. He's the stand-out out of work manager at the moment with a record of keeping teams up and Lerner and Fox won't want to see him go to Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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