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Popular Post DCJonah Posted June 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2015 I tried to sign him in Fifa 15 and villa wanted £25 million, so quite clear Sherwood does in fact rate him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 If losing Gil means the re - birth of Gary Gardener then that will certainly soften the blow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 If losing Gil means the re - birth of Gary Gardener then that will certainly soften the blow . but they play different roles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 And the only subject more boring than discussing possible reasons for Gil's exclusion gets brought up, the myth that Gardner is the answer to Villa's midfield problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 If losing Gil means the re - birth of Gary Gardener then that will certainly soften the blow . but they play different roles? Exactly, but this is Villa, too many fans (not singling you out Villanous) think midfield means midfield, forward means winger and full back means wing back; football has moved on yet over the last five years we haven't actually had a manager who has recognised that. Gardner might like to move forward but he's not talented enough to play the hole role, in the same respect pushing Gil back wouldn't win us many tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So, they're queuing up for him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I heard due to his reputation we won't be listening to offers less than £25m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Given the positivity around him when Gil broke into the team I would be seriously surprised if we have already seen the last of him. Gil looked like he would possibly be a really big player for us around late Jan/early Feb. Sherwood is no fool, he knows we can't afford to turn our back on talented players. I think this is a conversation really for late this year when Gil's had pre season and the early part of the new campaign to make a bit of impact. If it has just rumbled on like this with no progress all the way up to January then fair enough get rid, but this summer is premature. I think Gil will be a pretty big player for us next season as Grealish continues to develop and Sinclair tries to hold down a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Given the positivity around him when Gil broke into the team I would be seriously surprised if we have already seen the last of him. Gil looked like he would possibly be a really big player for us around late Jan/early Feb. Sherwood is no fool, he knows we can't afford to turn our back on talented players. I think this is a conversation really for late this year when Gil's had pre season and the early part of the new campaign to make a bit of impact. If it has just rumbled on like this with no progress all the way up to January then fair enough get rid, but this summer is premature. I think Gil will be a pretty big player for us next season as Grealish continues to develop and Sinclair tries to hold down a place. Playing N'Zogbia?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Given the positivity around him when Gil broke into the team I would be seriously surprised if we have already seen the last of him. Gil looked like he would possibly be a really big player for us around late Jan/early Feb. Sherwood is no fool, he knows we can't afford to turn our back on talented players. I think this is a conversation really for late this year when Gil's had pre season and the early part of the new campaign to make a bit of impact. If it has just rumbled on like this with no progress all the way up to January then fair enough get rid, but this summer is premature. I think Gil will be a pretty big player for us next season as Grealish continues to develop and Sinclair tries to hold down a place. Playing N'Zogbia?? Lol I must be in a minority but I thought N'Zogbia did ok in the run in. He'd lost it completely by the Soton, Burnley and Arsenal games but hadn't everybody? During the 'golden' period of the season versus Spurs, Liverpool semi, Everton and West Ham I thought he did well in there with Grealish. Edited June 19, 2015 by DamsonwoodVillan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Given the positivity around him when Gil broke into the team I would be seriously surprised if we have already seen the last of him. Gil looked like he would possibly be a really big player for us around late Jan/early Feb.Sherwood is no fool, he knows we can't afford to turn our back on talented players. I think this is a conversation really for late this year when Gil's had pre season and the early part of the new campaign to make a bit of impact. If it has just rumbled on like this with no progress all the way up to January then fair enough get rid, but this summer is premature. I think Gil will be a pretty big player for us next season as Grealish continues to develop and Sinclair tries to hold down a place. Playing N'Zogbia?? Lol I must be in a minority but I thought N'Zogbia did ok in the run in. He'd lost it completely by the Soton, Burnley and Arsenal games but hadn't everybody? During the 'golden' period of the season versus Spurs, Liverpool semi, Everton and West Ham I thought he did well in there with Grealish. I agree. He was excellent when Sherwood first came in, really upped his game along with Benteke, Gabby, Delph, Grealish and Cleverley and was at least as good as all of them in the run in. Still think we should sell but I firmly believe he contributed a hell of a lot more than many people will give him credit for, he deserved a few goals in those games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 The amount of games.Nzogbia played in.. What did he do? One or two assists no goals? I'm sure Gil would have matched that. He played 5 games and scored 1 and assisted one.. Didn't even start that many. Granted he had one bad game.. I rewatched the hull game and he wasn't.that bad. Stoke he was terrible but was in an odd formation out wide in that match. Would have loved to see Sherwood throw him in the two number 10s position in place of nzogbia and next to Grealish. It seems to me that sherwood doesn't see him as a number 10 and only as a wide player who he doesn't need. I personally think he is a better number 10 than a winger. He doesn't have the pace out wide. Although he has a fantastic delivery and set piece. I'm still holding on to the smallest of hopes that Sherwood will give him more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerreznik Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I always felt his lack of English was perhaps the delimited factor for why he didn't get any playing time, he also seems quite a timid character, at a time when Sherwood was obviously trying to reshape the playing style and motivate the team as a unit it would make sense why he was left on the outer. I hope and pray he gets a chance during the pre season to make an impression and / or Sherwood take more risks r.e. player selection next season, would be a real shame to see him leave, and I reckon we'd be extremely lucky to find somebody with similar skill / potential for similar money money. I'd prefer to see him given a chance over Z'nogbia every day of the week..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl the Pearl Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Gil be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I like the fact Gil had one good game vs Bournemouths reserves and suddenly he is a Villa legend who got done wronged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasGasGas Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Given the positivity around him when Gil broke into the team I would be seriously surprised if we have already seen the last of him. Gil looked like he would possibly be a really big player for us around late Jan/early Feb.Sherwood is no fool, he knows we can't afford to turn our back on talented players. I think this is a conversation really for late this year when Gil's had pre season and the early part of the new campaign to make a bit of impact. If it has just rumbled on like this with no progress all the way up to January then fair enough get rid, but this summer is premature. I think Gil will be a pretty big player for us next season as Grealish continues to develop and Sinclair tries to hold down a place. Playing N'Zogbia?? Lol I must be in a minority but I thought N'Zogbia did ok in the run in. He'd lost it completely by the Soton, Burnley and Arsenal games but hadn't everybody? During the 'golden' period of the season versus Spurs, Liverpool semi, Everton and West Ham I thought he did well in there with Grealish. I agree. He was excellent when Sherwood first came in, really upped his game along with Benteke, Gabby, Delph, Grealish and Cleverley and was at least as good as all of them in the run in. Still think we should sell but I firmly believe he contributed a hell of a lot more than many people will give him credit for, he deserved a few goals in those games Excellent? At being what? Mediocre? Because his best form as you guys mentioned was merely not being shit. After his form had gone he was back to being utter tripe as our last trio of games showed. In the games preceding that what did this "excellent" player do? A few decent close shots I would guess. If Sherwood wanted to play his double No. 10 formation then surely Gil would have been quite the perfect player for one of those two and not a player that does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 With the exception of Sunderland away, N'Zogbia was average at best for those games and would not receive any plaudits if it wasn't for the rest of the team playing well, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Does Gil track back? Does Gil know the importance of a relegation run in and what is expected? Is Gil fully settled in the league? Sometimes its better the devil you know. And once again, i ask, other than Bournemouths Reserves wonder goal..what else has he done to merit a starting place? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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