TRO Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I can't see how we can keep running with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) The team may not be great, but the problem is we don't and never will have a winning mentality. That has always been Lamberts problem, he has admitted he has a fear of losing and now you can see this in his team. This is why Championship, League 1 teams beat us in the cups. Whatever is said they do not have a better team than us, Bradford, Orient for instance, Its just they have a winning mentality installed to win against a big premiership team. The likes of Bradford should have been no where near us, but again towards the end of the game we crack, Lambert runs out of ideas and, well the rest is history. Im not really in the Lambert hater camp, but its blatently all too clear to see, we need a change! There is a good team there, it just needs new organisation, new tactics and a completely new philosophy installed in the players, something only a new manager can bring. Lambert will never turn it around now, yes he might win the odd game, but we will never be a winning team, a hard to beat team under the current manager, this is why there is no hate from me for Lambert, but I just believe his tenure here has run its course and its time for him to go. Edited November 2, 2014 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStortford Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wouldn't shed a tear if he left but who replaces him? Pulis? Give it 6 months and we'd have another incredibly dull team that we all hate watching. The truth is that our squad is poor, even a top manager would struggle with our team. Pretty sure the palace fans weren't complaining about the playstyle last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I hear you OBE, but the only way we are going to get a short term boost is to get in a manager that the fans will get excited about. I'm struggling to think of any manager that we could get that would give us this excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 29 points from last 102? Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 2, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 2, 2014 I hear you OBE, but the only way we are going to get a short term boost is to get in a manager that the fans will get excited about. I'm struggling to think of any manager that we could get that would give us this excitement. And there's the thing, because we could only offer them a couple of months security in all honesty, it'd be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder what the polls of the players would say about the man in charge. We definitely need a new injection of ideas because it is a poisonous state of affairs at the minute and I believe you only get a set amount of chances to prove yourself right or wrong before you lose the trust factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Whilst the Benteke sending off affected our game massively we can't be excused for putting ten men behind the ball for last 20 minutes. If we had continued pressing (which Benteke doesn't do anyway) we could've got something from that. No manager should have 6 straight defeats on his cv and stay in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 He's pretty much got everything right in the last couple of games and been let down by individual errors. When the luck deserts you and you weren't in a great position to start with, then things get tough quick. I worry for him if we lose the next two, even in our rather odd situation. Wow ! gawd help us when he doesn't get it right then !......2 games against two sides playing poorly, lost both and had, what, 3 shots ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 what is the point of a short term boost. Until we have investment properly and a decent owner, it makes no difference, if we're arsing about in 10th or 17th. I mean honestly, who cares? Both results are a product of a tremendously dull season. We'll stay up with Lambert. There's no point changing manager until we've got a structure in place that can aim for something worthwhile. Aiming for 10th? Whoopdy do. Who gives a shit? I'm sure Pulis or whoever could get us that this season. But then what? The football we derided him for at stoke would just piss us off once more. There is no point to anything unless there's dramatic change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 There is a losing mentality at the club and the manager does nothing to make me think he can improve the situation - fox needs to convince lerner to fire Lambert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Whilst the Benteke sending off affected our game massively we can't be excused for putting ten men behind the ball for last 20 minutes. If we had continued pressing (which Benteke doesn't do anyway) we could've got something from that. No manager should have 6 straight defeats on his cv and stay in a job. Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 what is the point of a short term boost. Until we have investment properly and a decent owner, it makes no difference, if we're arsing about in 10th or 17th. I mean honestly, who cares? Both results are a product of a tremendously dull season. We'll stay up with Lambert. There's no point changing manager until we've got a structure in place that can aim for something worthwhile. Aiming for 10th? Whoopdy do. Who gives a shit? I'm sure Pulis or whoever could get us that this season. But then what? The football we derided him for at stoke would just piss us off once more. There is no point to anything unless there's dramatic change. The football pulis had palace playing last season was far better than Stoke or villa have produced in many years. I would prefer moyes to pulis but either would be a huge improvement on Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 what is the point of a short term boost. Until we have investment properly and a decent owner, it makes no difference, if we're arsing about in 10th or 17th. I mean honestly, who cares? Both results are a product of a tremendously dull season. We'll stay up with Lambert. There's no point changing manager until we've got a structure in place that can aim for something worthwhile. Aiming for 10th? Whoopdy do. Who gives a shit? I'm sure Pulis or whoever could get us that this season. But then what? The football we derided him for at stoke would just piss us off once more. There is no point to anything unless there's dramatic change. what is the point of a short term boost. Until we have investment properly and a decent owner, it makes no difference, if we're arsing about in 10th or 17th. I mean honestly, who cares? Both results are a product of a tremendously dull season. We'll stay up with Lambert. There's no point changing manager until we've got a structure in place that can aim for something worthwhile. Aiming for 10th? Whoopdy do. Who gives a shit? I'm sure Pulis or whoever could get us that this season. But then what? The football we derided him for at stoke would just piss us off once more. There is no point to anything unless there's dramatic change. Errr, a short term boost may just aswell keep us up. Cause the way were heading at the moment were going down with Lambert still at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 what is the point of a short term boost. Until we have investment properly and a decent owner, it makes no difference, if we're arsing about in 10th or 17th. I mean honestly, who cares? Both results are a product of a tremendously dull season. We'll stay up with Lambert. There's no point changing manager until we've got a structure in place that can aim for something worthwhile. Aiming for 10th? Whoopdy do. Who gives a shit? I'm sure Pulis or whoever could get us that this season. But then what? The football we derided him for at stoke would just piss us off once more. There is no point to anything unless there's dramatic change. Yes there is. I understand that the long-term looks dull (it really does) at the moment, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to improve in the short-term. under Lambert we are treading the same waters and I think that it's down to a lack of ideas in the club. I also understand that we are under financial constraint, but then we should be a least looking to do the best under those constraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Could Be Rotterdam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Whilst the Benteke sending off affected our game massively we can't be excused for putting ten men behind the ball for last 20 minutes. If we had continued pressing (which Benteke doesn't do anyway) we could've got something from that. No manager should have 6 straight defeats on his cv and stay in a job. I was only wondering earlier if any manager in the prem has ever gone 6 games losing and only one goal scored and kept their job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Whilst the Benteke sending off affected our game massively we can't be excused for putting ten men behind the ball for last 20 minutes. If we had continued pressing (which Benteke doesn't do anyway) we could've got something from that. No manager should have 6 straight defeats on his cv and stay in a job. I was only wondering earlier if any manager in the prem has ever gone 6 games losing and only one goal scored and kept their job Alan Pardew? probably not though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Whilst the Benteke sending off affected our game massively we can't be excused for putting ten men behind the ball for last 20 minutes. If we had continued pressing (which Benteke doesn't do anyway) we could've got something from that. No manager should have 6 straight defeats on his cv and stay in a job. I was only wondering earlier if any manager in the prem has ever gone 6 games losing and only one goal scored and kept their job Lambert has broke enough records for one weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think we need him to go. Nice guy and tried his best in some difficult times. However we need a new guy with fresh ideas to give us some impetus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 We were unlucky today? We had our fair share of good luck last season: http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/9969-ratings-and-reactions-villa-3-2-man-city/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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