Tomaszk Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Did a much better job than Gerrard if you consider the resources at each of their disposal And Steve Bruce. Lambert underrated at Villa. Doesn't mean he was any good of course, just underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I don’t know how anyone can expect any better from him under the ownership we had. He did well to keep us up as long as he did tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 11/03/2022 at 15:31, Zatman said: Lerner was shit but its a terrible excuse for Lambert, was managers with similarly small budgets doing wonders Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, Palace and Norwich were finishing above us with similar resources. Was it Lerner fault that Lambert decided to remove most of the senior players and crush any bit of value they had It runs so much deeper than just resources though. The club was crumbling down. That has an effect on morale and commitment levels. No on in their right mind would want to be part of Villa or give a shit about them in that period except the fans. Was just an awful, horrible club. And even the fans had pretty much had enough. It cannot be understated what a difference moving on from Lerner and Xia has had to the club from top to bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: And Steve Bruce. Lambert underrated at Villa. Doesn't mean he was any good of course, just underrated. I agree with this. He was poor but I do think people overstate how bad a job he did on here. His net spend over his three seasons was around £40m-ish which isn't all that much, especially when the squad was pretty depleted anyway when he arrived and with a lot of deadwood. His performances in the cups in general was probably one of the worst aspects of his tenure. 2012/13 - knocked out by League 2 Bradford and Championship Millwall 2013/14 - knocked out by Spurs and League 1 Sheffield United (at home as well) 2014/15 - knocked out by League 1 Leyton Orient (again at home) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: And Steve Bruce. Lambert underrated at Villa. Doesn't mean he was any good of course, just underrated. Gerrard thankfully was only here for 11 months. Nearly three years of Lambert. That's the problem. His tenure just went on and on with endless losing runs and indeed two separate 6-7 game spells when we didn't even score a goal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Tomaszk said: And Steve Bruce. Lambert underrated at Villa. Doesn't mean he was any good of course, just underrated. I don't think he can be overrated with a win percentage of less than 30% at Villa. Lerner was losing interest at Villa but we still had a midtable budget. It was absolute rank for the best part of 3 years and no amount of reinterpretation can change my mind on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 While some weird stuff was going in at the club when Lambert was in charge, he hadn’t a clue how to set up his players tactically and couldn’t man manage them to save his life. I just cannot forgive those cup exits to lower league opposition. This gif summed up my feelings when he left: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 the thread goes again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 What's this wastrel doing on the front page again. Begone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Who keeps bumping this boring bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 The Lambert years were a real low point for us in our history, it was emblematic of what we had become, a team full of league 1 players. I remember on social media saying that we are aston villa, this is not good enough, we need better players and at the time was slaughtered for it, but its true, look at us now. We never deserved to fall that far and the situatiion was very avoidable, however for the most part we didnt really criticise the board or ownership and so i suppose they kept going down that route. Those wilderness years when we were beaten by the top teams at VP by embarassing scorelines were very very tough, it was a relief when we went down after those few years, we built back and managed to regain dignity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Can't we just lock this one and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2023 Lambert and Gerrard both being bumped - we need some transfer news quick sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, villan-scott said: Lambert and Gerrard both being bumped - we need some transfer news quick sharp! Remi Garde and Di Matteo threads are about to explode 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: Remi Garde and Di Matteo threads are about to explode Need Bruce and McLeish for a full house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2023 So so many managers in our history who were completely unemployable after we were the only suckers to offer them to run our famous club. So many bad choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, sidcow said: So so many managers in our history who were completely unemployable after we were the only suckers to offer them to run our famous club. So many bad choices. I think the only manager in last 30 years or so to get a club higher up the pyramid was Bruce at Newcastle as Ashley wanted to piss off the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I think it serves to remind some of us that we know very little about how a manager will cope at our glorious club! I remember our last game of the season under Mcleish - Norwich away... Villa fans serenading Lambert en masse and essentially "choosing" him. The board listened. We were absolute dogpooh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, DeadlyDirk said: I think it serves to remind some of us that we know very little about how a manager will cope at our glorious club! I remember our last game of the season under Mcleish - Norwich away... Villa fans serenading Lambert en masse and essentially "choosing" him. The board listened. We were absolute dogpooh. Also serves as a reminder to how little fans know about football. Sounds like many of those away fans at Norwich are on VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Mumbling scotch pissminstrel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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