avfc1982 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Lambert out, yes. Pulis in? Jesus Christ what's wrong with you all? The man is anti-football in a nutshell. His football is an abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Lambert out, yes. Pulis in? Jesus Christ what's wrong with you all? The man is anti-football in a nutshell. His football is an abomination. .....and the present incumbent is exactly what?....Mr total football. Edited November 3, 2014 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Used to hate Pulis myself but changed my opinion on him from his time at Palace, absolute miracle keeping them in the league from the position they were in. And even from his time at Stoke I'd struggle to say how they played is any worse than the dross we've been serving up, wouldn't surprise me if they scored more goals as well especially at home where he made the Britannia a bit of a fortress from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pulis? Could e good for the short term. Would be awful for the long term. If it would be up to me, i would rule him out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 What managerial qualities has Lambert shown to make people think we can improve on last year, or the year before that? Where is the progress on the pitch? Why are we always so cautious and one paved? Why is there no urgency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 ....so suggest a better alternative, rather than being needlessly aggressive. It's not that impressive. But we had this last season. Those pressing for him to be sacked are asked to suggest alternatives and when they comply, then the debate is automatically thrown into a hypothetical quagmire with responses like 'you don't know that he'll do any better' etc. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Lambert out, yes. Pulis in? Jesus Christ what's wrong with you all? The man is anti-football in a nutshell. His football is an abomination. .....and the present incumbent is exactly what?....Mr total football. Lambert is a f#ckin joke, but I don't want him replaced with a bigger one. David Moyes is available. Get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If it wasn't so serious..... it would be funny This situation is not serious, it's about a football team... of which there are thousands. If people stopped taking a football team who has absolutely no slight on them personally, we'd be much better off. Aston Villa is nothing more than a business in the entertainment industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If it wasn't so serious..... it would be funny This situation is not serious, it's about a football team... of which there are thousands. If people stopped taking a football team who has absolutely no slight on them personally, we'd be much better off. Aston Villa is nothing more than a business in the entertainment industry. I hate these sort of posts. We know it's only a football club and of course it's not life or death, but it's still important to its fans. Oh and if you think a football club is just a a business in the entertainment industry, then you don't get football and what it means to its supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If it wasn't so serious..... it would be funny This situation is not serious, it's about a football team... of which there are thousands. If people stopped taking a football team who has absolutely no slight on them personally, we'd be much better off. Aston Villa is nothing more than a business in the entertainment industry. I hate these sort of posts. We know it's only a football club and of course it's not life or death, but it's still important to its fans. Oh and if you think a football club is just a a business in the entertainment industry, then you don't get football and what it means to its supporters. Totally agree, I hate posts like that. While it's not the be all, it's something we are very passionate about, spends large amounts of our cash and free time on and have a very strong affiliation with. It's not only a business in the entertainment industry to most people, as there aren't any other products that have such strong brand loyalty despite how good or bad the product is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I wonder where we would be today if we got Martinez. Anyway. I would bring in Moyes. Hes not getting a job in the Premier League soon and hes a quality manager. Works well with a budget and his team always played with heart and played good football. Daily Express says Lerner has given him two games to go before the sack. I doubt that is true.. No doubt he will win the next two and he will get another 3 year extension and we will never win again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Curtis Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 What's us suggesting a manager really adding to the debate? None of us know how close the club is to a sale, what managers would likely come to the club and what we can offer to any potential candidate. This just seems an attempt to move the argument away from how poor a job Lambert is doing. The club is not up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Hmmm. McCleish? Graham Taylor era 2? David O'Leary the final 6 months? Venglos? It feels like he's had longer to do less Looking at the numbers he's nowhere near as bad as McLeish who was our worst ever manager, and is closely followed by Billy McNeill. He's pretty much exactly the same as GT Mk.II in terms of win percentage. Venglos' was a touch higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Curtis Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 What are the current statistics in terms of manager's success rates? As a side note, while trying to find these details I noted how well McLeish's Racing Genk are doing in Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 In terms of win percentages: GTII 31.67 Lambert 30.61 McNeill 21.95 McLeish 21.43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If we loose the next 3 - I beleive something would have to give. - and theres a good chance we will loose those 3. Ive supported Lambert through previous bad runs - but this one feels different ..its as though there is no end in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 In terms of win percentages: GTII 31.67 Lambert 30.61 McNeill 21.95 McLeish 21.43 What's the loss percentage and points per game look like? I'd imagine there's not much in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If we loose the next 3 - I beleive something would have to give. - and theres a good chance we will loose those 3. Ive supported Lambert through previous bad runs - but this one feels different ..its as though there is no end in sight.The sad thing is your not the only one who feels that way . I'm afraid the tunnel is indeed dark , and I don't think the light switch will be found any time soon . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I wonder where we would be today if we got Martinez. relegated, the man has no idea how to organise a defence and Villa wouldnt have been able to afford him the luxury of signing Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I wonder where we would be today if we got Martinez. relegated, the man has no idea how to organise a defence and Villa wouldnt have been able to afford him the luxury of signing Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku Interesting opinion there. The relegated bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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