George Curtis

I imagine we would have a very good away following for one year. That counts for nothing though, as far as our finances are concerned. Current ST sales of 17000, which are down by 4,500 from 2013-14, would drop to about 14000, unless very good incentives are put in place.

One of the arseholes on H&V posted this as well. All I will say is that any true Villa fan will not get on the manager's back on day one.

I agree that it is our only chance. However, there is not a hope in hell that there will be anyone other than Benteke allowed to encroach into the opposition's half.

I was saying the same thing on Saturday. The same name keeps cropping up again and again. He has a very comfortable billet at Villa Park.

Frank Worthington was another player with incredible skill and ball control. Having Benteke in the team after his long absence is like reaching an oasis in the desert.

At times like this I really miss Con. Please explain to those of us OTK on this forum.

Has it been mentioned in here that Keane left because the players 'run the club?' It has come from the same source that said Delph is off to Man Utd in January and has already sold his house, which is why he is living at The Belfry. The source is very senior and has his / her name in the programme among the club officials.

The football is only 90 mins of the day. We make our own entertainment for the rest of it. Regarding us being boring since that point in O'Neill's tenure, it as a wonder that the home crowd have taken this long to pick that up; only recently dropping by around 10000. If you think about what you've posted here you might realise what a massive contradiction it is relating to your earlier posts. Not in the slightest. The last paragraph in the previous reply suggested that I shouldn't still be going to the matches. I replied that the football is only part of the day. It would be nice for it to be entertaining as well. The bit about crowds being down by 10000 is possibly contradicting my perceived opinion on stats but is simple fact, unlike some of the rubbish being posted. I refer particularly to any references to taking results against the top 6 out of consideration. Since when has it been acceptable to lose to the top 6 all the time? Might as well start a shadow league now.

How dare he honour his contract, play well for the club (when fit) and want to play for a bigger more successful club at the end of his career. Ever hear of someone called Olof Mellberg. Did he go down in your books for leaving for nothing to play for Juventus? Considerable difference between the two. Mellberg played for 6/7 years with a good availability and excellent record. Vlaar is nowhere near that. All we have been to Vlaar is a treatment centre. Do you honestly think that without him for the past 2 seasons we'd still be in the league!!! Clark & Baker were god awful together. I disagree about Baker. I also think that Clark has played out of position but is growing into it now. Vlaar was good while he was fit but it is now too few and far between. We need a regular back four and, sadly, Ron Vlaar will never be a regular here. He is a great man off the field, has time for fans but his time is up here. Back to the original comparison with Mellberg, we will never find out if he was as good as him. Mellberg had served his time here. You didn't answer my question We would have been a few points worse off so, yes, we probably would have been relegated.

The football is only 90 mins of the day. We make our own entertainment for the rest of it. Regarding us being boring since that point in O'Neill's tenure, it as a wonder that the home crowd have taken this long to pick that up; only recently dropping by around 10000.

How dare he honour his contract, play well for the club (when fit) and want to play for a bigger more successful club at the end of his career. Ever hear of someone called Olof Mellberg. Did he go down in your books for leaving for nothing to play for Juventus? Considerable difference between the two. Mellberg played for 6/7 years with a good availability and excellent record. Vlaar is nowhere near that. All we have been to Vlaar is a treatment centre. Do you honestly think that without him for the past 2 seasons we'd still be in the league!!! Clark & Baker were god awful together. I disagree about Baker. I also think that Clark has played out of position but is growing into it now. Vlaar was good while he was fit but it is now too few and far between. We need a regular back four and, sadly, Ron Vlaar will never be a regular here. He is a great man off the field, has time for fans but his time is up here. Back to the original comparison with Mellberg, we will never find out if he was as good as him. Mellberg had served his time here.

More meaningless statistics and 'ifs'. they are actual facts How many more facts are going to be put together by boring people studying record books? It has become an obsession. You'd be amazed, but each season the F.A. decides to have these factual things called "league tables". They show things like wins, draws, losses, how many you score, how many you conceed etc. After playing a set amount of games (for some reason, they choose 38 in the Premier League but 46 in the Championship - weird!) they add up points and decide who finishes where. You can even compare home and away records or use other "tables" to see how you performed against certain teams. It's utter madness! Straight from the H&V / VT smartarse response book.

Fair comment. However, I believe what I see and we have been very poor except for a few exceptions. There are promising signs but what we have had to endure cannot be glossed over with numbers, apart from goals of course. Even if those numbers are facts? Whether you believe it with your own eyes or not is irrelevant because those stats actually happened. I go to football to be entertained, not to wait until the next day to be told that a crap match was really good by someone who has had their head buried in Wikipedia.

Fair comment. However, I believe what I see and we have been very poor except for a few exceptions. There are promising signs but what we have had to endure cannot be glossed over with numbers, apart from goals of course.

More meaningless statistics and 'ifs'. they are actual facts How many more facts are going to be put together by boring people studying record books? It has become an obsession. what are you talking about? Reel them in.