George Curtis

I imagine we would have a very good away following for one year. That counts for nothing though, as far as our finances are concerned. Current ST sales of 17000, which are down by 4,500 from 2013-14, would drop to about 14000, unless very good incentives are put in place.

One of the arseholes on H&V posted this as well. All I will say is that any true Villa fan will not get on the manager's back on day one.

I agree that it is our only chance. However, there is not a hope in hell that there will be anyone other than Benteke allowed to encroach into the opposition's half.

I was saying the same thing on Saturday. The same name keeps cropping up again and again. He has a very comfortable billet at Villa Park.

Frank Worthington was another player with incredible skill and ball control. Having Benteke in the team after his long absence is like reaching an oasis in the desert.

At times like this I really miss Con. Please explain to those of us OTK on this forum.

Has it been mentioned in here that Keane left because the players 'run the club?' It has come from the same source that said Delph is off to Man Utd in January and has already sold his house, which is why he is living at The Belfry. The source is very senior and has his / her name in the programme among the club officials.

The football is only 90 mins of the day. We make our own entertainment for the rest of it. Regarding us being boring since that point in O'Neill's tenure, it as a wonder that the home crowd have taken this long to pick that up; only recently dropping by around 10000. If you think about what you've posted here you might realise what a massive contradiction it is relating to your earlier posts. Not in the slightest. The last paragraph in the previous reply suggested that I shouldn't still be going to the matches. I replied that the football is only part of the day. It would be nice for it to be entertaining as well. The bit about crowds being down by 10000 is possibly contradicting my perceived opinion on stats but is simple fact, unlike some of the rubbish being posted. I refer particularly to any references to taking results against the top 6 out of consideration. Since when has it been acceptable to lose to the top 6 all the time? Might as well start a shadow league now.

How dare he honour his contract, play well for the club (when fit) and want to play for a bigger more successful club at the end of his career. Ever hear of someone called Olof Mellberg. Did he go down in your books for leaving for nothing to play for Juventus? Considerable difference between the two. Mellberg played for 6/7 years with a good availability and excellent record. Vlaar is nowhere near that. All we have been to Vlaar is a treatment centre. Do you honestly think that without him for the past 2 seasons we'd still be in the league!!! Clark & Baker were god awful together. I disagree about Baker. I also think that Clark has played out of position but is growing into it now. Vlaar was good while he was fit but it is now too few and far between. We need a regular back four and, sadly, Ron Vlaar will never be a regular here. He is a great man off the field, has time for fans but his time is up here. Back to the original comparison with Mellberg, we will never find out if he was as good as him. Mellberg had served his time here. You didn't answer my question We would have been a few points worse off so, yes, we probably would have been relegated.

The football is only 90 mins of the day. We make our own entertainment for the rest of it. Regarding us being boring since that point in O'Neill's tenure, it as a wonder that the home crowd have taken this long to pick that up; only recently dropping by around 10000.

How dare he honour his contract, play well for the club (when fit) and want to play for a bigger more successful club at the end of his career. Ever hear of someone called Olof Mellberg. Did he go down in your books for leaving for nothing to play for Juventus? Considerable difference between the two. Mellberg played for 6/7 years with a good availability and excellent record. Vlaar is nowhere near that. All we have been to Vlaar is a treatment centre. Do you honestly think that without him for the past 2 seasons we'd still be in the league!!! Clark & Baker were god awful together. I disagree about Baker. I also think that Clark has played out of position but is growing into it now. Vlaar was good while he was fit but it is now too few and far between. We need a regular back four and, sadly, Ron Vlaar will never be a regular here. He is a great man off the field, has time for fans but his time is up here. Back to the original comparison with Mellberg, we will never find out if he was as good as him. Mellberg had served his time here.

More meaningless statistics and 'ifs'. they are actual facts How many more facts are going to be put together by boring people studying record books? It has become an obsession. You'd be amazed, but each season the F.A. decides to have these factual things called "league tables". They show things like wins, draws, losses, how many you score, how many you conceed etc. After playing a set amount of games (for some reason, they choose 38 in the Premier League but 46 in the Championship - weird!) they add up points and decide who finishes where. You can even compare home and away records or use other "tables" to see how you performed against certain teams. It's utter madness! Straight from the H&V / VT smartarse response book.

Fair comment. However, I believe what I see and we have been very poor except for a few exceptions. There are promising signs but what we have had to endure cannot be glossed over with numbers, apart from goals of course. Even if those numbers are facts? Whether you believe it with your own eyes or not is irrelevant because those stats actually happened. I go to football to be entertained, not to wait until the next day to be told that a crap match was really good by someone who has had their head buried in Wikipedia.

Fair comment. However, I believe what I see and we have been very poor except for a few exceptions. There are promising signs but what we have had to endure cannot be glossed over with numbers, apart from goals of course.

More meaningless statistics and 'ifs'. they are actual facts How many more facts are going to be put together by boring people studying record books? It has become an obsession. what are you talking about? Reel them in.

Those of you who have to rely on statistics dredged up and repeated over and over again clearly never set foot in a football ground. Otherwise, you would have seen how shit we have been. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

More meaningless statistics and 'ifs'. they are actual facts How many more facts are going to be put together by boring people studying record books? It has become an obsession.

I seem to recall posters on other forums squealing when I mentioned that Hutton was a good player. 'His type of player was not what was wanted in the modern game' came from the supposed big guns. There will always be room for proper full backs like Hutton.

More meaningless statistics and 'ifs'.

How dare he honour his contract, play well for the club (when fit) and want to play for a bigger more successful club at the end of his career. Ever hear of someone called Olof Mellberg. Did he go down in your books for leaving for nothing to play for Juventus? Considerable difference between the two. Mellberg played for 6/7 years with a good availability and excellent record. Vlaar is nowhere near that. All we have been to Vlaar is a treatment centre.

What's the most he's been allowed to spend on a midfielder?Well he has had ~£60m available so how he has chosen to spend that money has been up to him. Allright then, which of our bigger-money signings would you want to send back? Okore? Kozak? Cissokho? Sanchez? Benteke? I'm drawing a bit of a blank trying to think of anyone else who cost a Premier League amount of money - The rest were speculative buys, some of which have worked out okay, and some of which haven't.If we get to pick and chose, we could have used Hutton from the start and not bought Lowton. We also could have not bought Kozak and used Bent or Helenius as the Benteke back-up (as that position was fairly well stocked already). That would have made an extra £4m-6m available, in my opinion. When talking about transfers, I think Lambert's been fairly successful. However, Benteke and Cissokho aside, fullback & striker positions have been a bit of a concern. Striker is, arguably, the one position where I've felt relatively comfortable. Even if it's Gabby/Weimann, they'd score enough goals between them. Having Benteke is, obviously, a massive plus point, but the initial options (Bent included) aren't terrible if they get the right service. Bent needs to be got rid of. He's had his time here and been paid for it. We need players with more energy that him. How long has Bent got left on his contract? Seems like an eternity.

I never thought he was as bad as many made out, and I said as much. He was still decent going forward, but it was a just his rash challenges that people seemed to concentrate on. As a full back, you are expected to get stuck on. Why can't the clowns see this?

Almost like you wish it to happen.

That is in relation to the rise in the prices of pies in the last five years. It is a disgrace.

Its a likeathon. I will concede that Lambert has been unlucky with injuries but he needs to take the reins off the players.