pacbuddies Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I backed Fox all the way but this appointment looks awful. Should have gave Tim until Christmas Can I have some of what you are smoking please! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: I backed Fox all the way but this appointment looks awful. Should have gave Tim until Christmas This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Absolutely not. He should never have hired Sherwood in the first place. Both Fox and Sherwood are clowns. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Sherwood kept us up and we at least put up a fight in most of games we have lost. Everton and Arsenal were gutless performances and Watford wasnt much better I think players wanted play for Tim as they still keep praising him in the media and maybe some dont respect Garde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Benteke kept us up. Sherwood didn't even have the players fit for the start of the season. No wonder some of the lazy ones liked him. We did put up a hell of a fight in the FA cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted December 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think a better manager than Sherwood would have kept us up and not had us looking like a league one team in the final fixtures (or the stupid high line, weird subs, and destroying the confidence of players by saying they are not good enough). Should never have been appointed. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Tom Fox's fault doesn't lie with which manager was in charge and for how long. It's such a minor part of our problem, we're basically arguing about who has made us play the best whilst still losing. I said this in September, we were done for the second the window closed and we hadn't responded to the departures we experienced. Lambert got us surviving with a squad that was marginally better than this one, Sherwood finished the job (coinciding with Benteke return) and then struggled with the much worse squad we have now. Now we have Garde who is also struggling with the rubbish players we have. Have a go at him for player purchases, sales, whether committees were used and the general cost cutting - but arguing over which manager lost in the worst way is so pointless. They all lost, they all had their own ways, it's the quality of the players that is the issue. Lambert, Sherwood, Garde even McDonald briefly - it makes no difference, good players win you matches whether you're a particuarly good manager or not. Some manager's might have got us to 14th/15th which Lambert did initially, but our current squad is capable of 20th, 19th at best. Sherwood might be 20th, Garde might be 19th but there isn't a manager out there that could get this squad of players out of the relegation zone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 So any news from the meeting that took place today with supporters ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Pity we couldn't bring back Steve Stride over Tom Fox! Least Steve knew what he is doing and is a Football man. Edited December 13, 2015 by Villan4Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) anyone remember this interview exactly a year ago when appointed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30281192 Quote Tom Fox: Aston Villa want European football in three years Aston Villa chief executive Tom Fox says the Premier League club is targeting a regular challenge for European football within three years. And he is insistent that manager Paul Lambert is part of that plans. "We should be finishing seventh or eighth consistently," Fox told BBC WM. "We should be competing consistently up there for a place in Europe, and putting us within touching distance of the larger clubs. And I don't think that takes four years," he added. "What I've communicated to our owner Randy Lerner is that this club can be seventh or eighth in terms of revenue. "I think it will take three years to put ourselves in a better position than we are now. We don't have to wait that long to determine whether we've been successful against where we want to be." Villa, European Cup winners in 1982, have operated chiefly in the lower reaches of English football's top division since Martin O'Neill quit on the eve of the 2010-11 season. And, following the successive failures of Gerard Houllier and Alex McLeish to get them kick-started at a time when it appeared that American owner Lerner's interest in the club was on the wane, Villa have so far laboured under 45-year-old Lambert Edited December 13, 2015 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 22 minutes ago, Nabby said: So any news from the meeting that took place today with supporters ? First I've heard of this. Was this before or after that shambles on display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 He's always sounded like he can talk the talk. In reality though he shouldn't be running a football club 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Fox will get his wish next season. When we play away at Cardiff it'll be his only chance of seeing this shite play in another European country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) 19 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: First I've heard of this. Was this before or after that shambles on display? Before, was a report in Birmingham Mail earlier about it happening but seen nothing about what was said online yet! Edited December 13, 2015 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I sincerely hope somebody pied him. If anybody is in need of a pieing, Tom Fox is in need of pieing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 3 hours ago, jim said: This. Wow. Wow. Sherwood's job over the summer was to get the new squad in shape, integrated and playing as a team. I don't know what the **** he was doing over the preseason but he failed at that spectacularly. Then in the games that followed Bournemouth he dropped players who were performing and started the players were our problem in the first place, meaning none of our new guys could get used to playing together, totally alienating them. Hes a major part of the reason we're so far behind in the first place. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The longer we play like this the less I blame Sherwood. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 2 hours ago, villarocker said: Fox will get his wish next season. When we play away at Cardiff it'll be his only chance of seeing this shite play in another European country. Don't we already go to Swansea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 20 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Don't we already go to Swansea? We pretty much never turn up at Swansea . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 14, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2015 7 hours ago, Zatman said: I backed Fox all the way but this appointment looks awful. Should have gave Tim until Christmas We'd still be on 4 points with Sherwood in charge. He's the reason we're in this mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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