AlwaysAVFC Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 No he isn't. Bowery was a no hoper from League 2 who couldn't score for Chesterfield. Joe Cole is was one of the most gifted English midfielders of the last fifteen years, it's not remotely similar. We're only two months or eight games into the first season. Was. That's the whole point. We haven't bought the Joe Cole who was a Champions League regular, we've got the one deemed surplus to requirements by Sam Allardyce. I'm not even sure Joe Cole in his prime would have found his way into a fat Sam team. Why? Allardyce has had players like Okocha and Campo, both at least as talented as Cole. Ivan Campo, as talented as Joe Cole. Okay. Did piss myself at Campo. Djorkaeff would have been a vaild example and Hierro but Campo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Lost a few games so someone was going to get it. Joe Cole is an easy target so yep let's moan about his impact. Never mind the fact he signed a two year deal and we are in October ffs, let's write him off. He was a free transfer, brought in to be a squad player. . We didn't shell out up to £10m on him like clubs below us have on shite like Rodwell, Fer, Cabella and that donkey West Brom signed. I don't know what people expected, from a player who was effectively a punt. We don't have the funds. I still have faith he can play a part, have an impact on the pitch and provide us with something we have sorely lacked in the creativity department. Over the value of his contract he is probably costing us less than the individual fees and wages of, say, Luna, Sylla, Bennett, Tonev etc...but all people see is a few losses on the bounce and a high profile player, an easy target so let's slag him. It's pathetic really.. He is an easy target because he is well past his best, and is almost constantly injured, and being a high profile player does not mean he is immune from criticism. He is up there with Holt and Bowery for baffling signings. As for comparing him cost wise with Luna, etc., they were signed by Lambert, and that only compounds the poor value he achieved in many cases considering the paucity of his budget. No he isn't. Bowery was a no hoper from League 2 who couldn't score for Chesterfield. Joe Cole is one of the most gifted English midfielders of the last fifteen years, it's not remotely similar. We're only two months or eight games into the first season. We are talking about the present, not the past. And Joe Cole now is better than Jordan Bowery is, was or ever will be, so it was still an incorrect comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Lost a few games so someone was going to get it. Joe Cole is an easy target so yep let's moan about his impact. Never mind the fact he signed a two year deal and we are in October ffs, let's write him off. He was a free transfer, brought in to be a squad player. . We didn't shell out up to £10m on him like clubs below us have on shite like Rodwell, Fer, Cabella and that donkey West Brom signed. I don't know what people expected, from a player who was effectively a punt. We don't have the funds. I still have faith he can play a part, have an impact on the pitch and provide us with something we have sorely lacked in the creativity department. Over the value of his contract he is probably costing us less than the individual fees and wages of, say, Luna, Sylla, Bennett, Tonev etc...but all people see is a few losses on the bounce and a high profile player, an easy target so let's slag him. It's pathetic really.. He is an easy target because he is well past his best, and is almost constantly injured, and being a high profile player does not mean he is immune from criticism. He is up there with Holt and Bowery for baffling signings. As for comparing him cost wise with Luna, etc., they were signed by Lambert, and that only compounds the poor value he achieved in many cases considering the paucity of his budget. No he isn't. Bowery was a no hoper from League 2 who couldn't score for Chesterfield. Joe Cole is one of the most gifted English midfielders of the last fifteen years, it's not remotely similar. We're only two months or eight games into the first season. We are talking about the present, not the past. And Joe Cole now is better than Jordan Bowery is, was or ever will be, so it was still an incorrect comparison. If only he wasn't held together by flour and water? What's better a Bowery on the bench or Joe Cole on the Treatment table? Answer, neither are much us to anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Lost a few games so someone was going to get it. Joe Cole is an easy target so yep let's moan about his impact. Never mind the fact he signed a two year deal and we are in October ffs, let's write him off. He was a free transfer, brought in to be a squad player. . We didn't shell out up to £10m on him like clubs below us have on shite like Rodwell, Fer, Cabella and that donkey West Brom signed. I don't know what people expected, from a player who was effectively a punt. We don't have the funds. I still have faith he can play a part, have an impact on the pitch and provide us with something we have sorely lacked in the creativity department. Over the value of his contract he is probably costing us less than the individual fees and wages of, say, Luna, Sylla, Bennett, Tonev etc...but all people see is a few losses on the bounce and a high profile player, an easy target so let's slag him. It's pathetic really.. He is an easy target because he is well past his best, and is almost constantly injured, and being a high profile player does not mean he is immune from criticism. He is up there with Holt and Bowery for baffling signings. As for comparing him cost wise with Luna, etc., they were signed by Lambert, and that only compounds the poor value he achieved in many cases considering the paucity of his budget. No he isn't. Bowery was a no hoper from League 2 who couldn't score for Chesterfield. Joe Cole is one of the most gifted English midfielders of the last fifteen years, it's not remotely similar. We're only two months or eight games into the first season. We are talking about the present, not the past. And Joe Cole now is better than Jordan Bowery is, was or ever will be, so it was still an incorrect comparison. Why do the players have to be similar for them both to be "baflfing signings". Bowery baffling because he was a League 2 no-hoper as you rightly point out. Baffling as we already had better in the reserves. Joe Cole's career has been on the slide since his cruciate injury in 2009 and is baffling because he's generally considered to be a huge injury risk, and pretty much past it, having been let go by one of our fellow strugglers from last season. Two very different players, but both baffling, and rubbish, signings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Lost a few games so someone was going to get it. Joe Cole is an easy target so yep let's moan about his impact. Never mind the fact he signed a two year deal and we are in October ffs, let's write him off. He was a free transfer, brought in to be a squad player. . We didn't shell out up to £10m on him like clubs below us have on shite like Rodwell, Fer, Cabella and that donkey West Brom signed. I don't know what people expected, from a player who was effectively a punt. We don't have the funds. I still have faith he can play a part, have an impact on the pitch and provide us with something we have sorely lacked in the creativity department. Over the value of his contract he is probably costing us less than the individual fees and wages of, say, Luna, Sylla, Bennett, Tonev etc...but all people see is a few losses on the bounce and a high profile player, an easy target so let's slag him. It's pathetic really.. He is an easy target because he is well past his best, and is almost constantly injured, and being a high profile player does not mean he is immune from criticism. He is up there with Holt and Bowery for baffling signings. As for comparing him cost wise with Luna, etc., they were signed by Lambert, and that only compounds the poor value he achieved in many cases considering the paucity of his budget. No he isn't. Bowery was a no hoper from League 2 who couldn't score for Chesterfield. Joe Cole is one of the most gifted English midfielders of the last fifteen years, it's not remotely similar. We're only two months or eight games into the first season. We are talking about the present, not the past. And Joe Cole now is better than Jordan Bowery is, was or ever will be, so it was still an incorrect comparison. Why do the players have to be similar for them both to be "baflfing signings". Bowery baffling because he was a League 2 no-hoper as you rightly point out. Baffling as we already had better in the reserves. Joe Cole's career has been on the slide since his cruciate injury in 2009 and is baffling because he's generally considered to be a huge injury risk, and pretty much past it, having been let go by one of our fellow strugglers from last season. Two very different players, but both baffling, and rubbish, signings. This. Was just about to compose something very similar, but could not have put it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Do you honestly think that Joe Cole and Grant Holt are similar? Other than both being footballers, I mean. Eh? Where on earth have I even implied that? But the fact is that the signing of both players was defended on the basis of them having a positive influence on the younger players. It's desperate nonsense in an attempt to defend yet another piss poor piece of business. "We had all this "good bloke to have around the youngsters" nonsense when we signed that other hopeless has-been, Grant Holt." That's more than implying that this is a similar situation/they are similar in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hope he proves everyone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 He looked a class above when he came on. Just positive and one touch passing. I cant wait to see him in action. Not sure what all the hate is about. Lambert isnt picking him.. hes been fit for a few weeks now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Do you honestly think that Joe Cole and Grant Holt are similar? Other than both being footballers, I mean. Eh? Where on earth have I even implied that? But the fact is that the signing of both players was defended on the basis of them having a positive influence on the younger players. It's desperate nonsense in an attempt to defend yet another piss poor piece of business. "We had all this "good bloke to have around the youngsters" nonsense when we signed that other hopeless has-been, Grant Holt." That's more than implying that this is a similar situation/they are similar in that respect. Well that's your interpretation. It's not correct, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 How exactly can it be interpreted in a different way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 How exactly can it be interpreted in a different way? If I answer that honestly I'll probably get a warning, so I'll leave it there if it's all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Lost a few games so someone was going to get it. Joe Cole is an easy target so yep let's moan about his impact. Never mind the fact he signed a two year deal and we are in October ffs, let's write him off. He was a free transfer, brought in to be a squad player. . We didn't shell out up to £10m on him like clubs below us have on shite like Rodwell, Fer, Cabella and that donkey West Brom signed. I don't know what people expected, from a player who was effectively a punt. We don't have the funds. I still have faith he can play a part, have an impact on the pitch and provide us with something we have sorely lacked in the creativity department. Over the value of his contract he is probably costing us less than the individual fees and wages of, say, Luna, Sylla, Bennett, Tonev etc...but all people see is a few losses on the bounce and a high profile player, an easy target so let's slag him. It's pathetic really.. He is an easy target because he is well past his best, and is almost constantly injured, and being a high profile player does not mean he is immune from criticism. He is up there with Holt and Bowery for baffling signings. As for comparing him cost wise with Luna, etc., they were signed by Lambert, and that only compounds the poor value he achieved in many cases considering the paucity of his budget. No he isn't. Bowery was a no hoper from League 2 who couldn't score for Chesterfield. Joe Cole is one of the most gifted English midfielders of the last fifteen years, it's not remotely similar. We're only two months or eight games into the first season. We are talking about the present, not the past. And Joe Cole now is better than Jordan Bowery is, was or ever will be, so it was still an incorrect comparison. Why do the players have to be similar for them both to be "baflfing signings". Bowery baffling because he was a League 2 no-hoper as you rightly point out. Baffling as we already had better in the reserves. Joe Cole's career has been on the slide since his cruciate injury in 2009 and is baffling because he's generally considered to be a huge injury risk, and pretty much past it, having been let go by one of our fellow strugglers from last season. Two very different players, but both baffling, and rubbish, signings. Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndJo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Will be suprised if he doesn't start on Monday with the amount of positive PR regarding him coming out of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AVFCRAMTIN Posted October 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2014 I met him after the Newcastle game, this lad is one of the nicest footballers I've met! Gave his autograph to everybody and gladly spent some time chatting with the fans! Pride moment to talk to him and I'm glad his a Villian! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 More likely he will play in the bottom 10 sides for us this season- for games we need to pick up points and have to attack and keep possession. Which we haven't done for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 How exactly can it be interpreted in a different way? If I answer that honestly I'll probably get a warning, so I'll leave it there if it's all the same. That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If Cole has got 50% of this ability left in him I'll be delighted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zatDMcITXek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Needs to be played on Monday, at least for some of the game. Benteke will score if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Can now see why west ham had no interest in keeping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Until we change our style of play players like him and Grealish will suffer. They aren't great at defending and we only have the ball for about 30% of the match. That is a bad combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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