KenjiOgiwara Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 If you'd said broker you'd have a point. Developers here are just a bunch of engineers really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I am pondering a move from geo engineering to property development. Any one switched areas and been happy with it? Sorry to not answer the question, but it's something I've considered a few times. I've not had the balls to implement it after having to do 3 years on an RICS uni course followed by 2 years of training (as well as a few years in the profession since) to become Chartered. I've got friends who have completely switched industries and loved it - generally they've come from sales backgrounds into a profession though so it's a bit different. Are you going to be using your own capital to develop property or looking at joining a firm? If the latter, what sort of role do you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Freelancer here, contract ends in Dec and due to the wonderful new IR35 rules its either apply for your role as a permy or GTFO. Urgh, sad times. Thanks a lot Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Looking like redundancy is around the corner, the rumours are we have until the end of the year before closure. Was looking to move on anyway but now with a sense of urgency. Currently there are no positions I want to apply for in the local area. Any advise on what I should do next? CV is updated and in the hands of a couple of recruitment agencies, LinkedIn is updated. I'm scouring the job sites daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: Sorry to not answer the question, but it's something I've considered a few times. I've not had the balls to implement it after having to do 3 years on an RICS uni course followed by 2 years of training (as well as a few years in the profession since) to become Chartered. I've got friends who have completely switched industries and loved it - generally they've come from sales backgrounds into a profession though so it's a bit different. Are you going to be using your own capital to develop property or looking at joining a firm? If the latter, what sort of role do you have in mind? Oh I will be joining a firm. Well, I've thought about it before, but now I suddenly got a likely interview offer with one of the very big companies here in a project leader role. I'm quite used to the project leader bit, but it's scary when it's something completely new and you're starting to get older haha. I think it's sounds a lot of fun, but I just don't know if I will have much to offer. Then again what's the worst thing that can happen. Going back to a job I am already bored at I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Oh I will be joining a firm. Well, I've thought about it before, but now I suddenly got a likely interview offer with one of the very big companies here in a project leader role. I'm quite used to the project leader bit, but it's scary when it's something completely new and you're starting to get older haha. I think it's sounds a lot of fun, but I just don't know if I will have much to offer. Then again what's the worst thing that can happen. Going back to a job I am already bored at I guess. Project management is an area I wouldn't mind working in if I were client side. It's the land buyers who are absolute wideboys so I'd be less keen to do that. There is no doubt in my mind that if you have PM experience it should translate fairly seamlessly. I reckon they will love anyone with a technical background, which it sounds like you have. I know people with a lot less credible backgrounds than you enjoying success in the same area! If you were really worried about not yet having the full skillset there are jobs that would work quite well as a transition role. e.g. I had a friend who worked in sales, then moved onto office fit out sales, then moved into office fit out project management then full construction project management. Managing office fit outs would give you a lot of the experience in a far less stressful (and higher margin) environment than going straight into huge development projects. If you want, feel free to drop me a message on the company and specific role as I may be able to get a bit of the inside track for you. Probably only if they are companies with a large UK presence, but it's something! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, wilko154 said: Looking like redundancy is around the corner, the rumours are we have until the end of the year before closure. Was looking to move on anyway but now with a sense of urgency. Currently there are no positions I want to apply for in the local area. Any advise on what I should do next? CV is updated and in the hands of a couple of recruitment agencies, LinkedIn is updated. I'm scouring the job sites daily. Look further afield? Would you consider relocating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted October 7, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 I have 2 interviews this week. I'm absolutely bricking it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chindie said: I have 2 interviews this week. I'm absolutely bricking it. All the best mate. You can do it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 7, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Xela said: All the best mate. You can do it! Thanks, appreciated. I'm genuinely more concerned about getting to the interviews than I am of the interviews themselves. Which is mad. Especially as I've been ill for so long I've forgotten everything I kinda knew. I've been desperately trying to refresh my brain for the last few days of all the weird little caveats and rarely used options etc etc. Worse one of the interviews is for a field I stopped working in 3 years ago, and even when I did it it was in a very specialised field. Although thats probably the one I'd prefer given the choice, but anything is better than the way things are now. I've run out of shit to sell. I'm literally putting together notes as I type this and digging through very boring articles for snippets of info. And trying to recall the 'best' disasters of my career and how I fixed them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2019 Interview 1 done. Slightly odd interview. Things were bad before I even got there. I left later than I'd like, despite my best efforts, ran a red light as I was so distracted by everything else, my GPS seemed to send me on a completely fantasy route so ended up getting sent down odd one way streets. Then couldn't find a parking place. Then when I finally parked I realised I picked up the wrong shirt my now fat neck couldn't be contained by the collar so I had to try to fudge it with my tie. I eventually turned up 5 minutes late. I'm never late for anything. Apologised of course. Then the interview itself started with talking about my degree, they were very interested that I'd done politics. That turned into a Brexit chat and it turned out that the MD, who was in the interview, was an ardent Leaver so that made things quite awkward. Had a chat about my work history, tried to drop in some examples of stuff, that I knew the industry etc, which went ok, and a little bit about my being ill, which was obviously a concern. The one chap seemed slightly more keen than the other. I appreciated the kind of ethics they espoused in the business. Ended with the MD asking if I had other interviews, which I said I did, to which he said make sure your collar is buttoned for those... Not the best interview I've had, not the worst. We'll see I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 13 hours ago, Chindie said: Ended with the MD asking if I had other interviews, which I said I did, to which he said make sure your collar is buttoned for those... I HATE shit like this. Why do interviewers do this bullshit power grab? I had a similar one. I was only about 22 and the boss told me to shave better for my next interview and that I'd clearly just read their website when it came to my answers about their company. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Yes, if they don't want to hire you then just don't hire you. There's no need to make people feel shitty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It's one of those annoying things, because he's kinda right, but at the end of the day, what does it **** matter? It's a word removed -ish thing to say though. If it was a problem, he should have told the recruitment agent to give it to you as feedback. I once went to an interview in a jacket, rather than a suit jacket, I was wearing a shirt and tie underneath, after the interview the guy said "do you have a suit jacket?" and I said "yes, but with the weather like it is, and knowing how far away the car park was I needed protection from the rain". I got the job, so don't fret about it too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) If appearance is vital for a role - and frankly I think it's not particularly important for most roles, but let's play along here - it still has nothing to do with a candidate's ability to do the job. If a boss needs her employees to have their top button done up or to be wearing a three-piece suit, then they can state that clearly during orientation. A company that thinks it has enough information to hire a candidate or not depending on whether they are wearing a jacket or a suit jacket is not a company that understands people, and its recruitment isn't analysing, it's just guessing. Edited October 9, 2019 by HanoiVillan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, lapal_fan said: It's one of those annoying things, because he's kinda right, but at the end of the day, what does it **** matter? It's a word removed -ish thing to say though. If it was a problem, he should have told the recruitment agent to give it to you as feedback. I once went to an interview in a jacket, rather than a suit jacket, I was wearing a shirt and tie underneath, after the interview the guy said "do you have a suit jacket?" and I said "yes, but with the weather like it is, and knowing how far away the car park was I needed protection from the rain". I got the job, so don't fret about it too much. ..and you've enjoyed working in Ultimate Outdoors ever since 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I'm being made redundant next year. My company has a good redundancy package, of which, part of it is that they give you £2k funding for training. I'm wondering whether to just complete a load of courses/qualifications in my current field of Anti Money Laundering/ Financial Crime, or whether to use that to train in something completely new. The one criteria they've given us for the training, is that all the training we do must be with a view to getting a job in that field. Ie: I couldn't do a plumbing course AND a Financial Crime course, unless I could prove I was applying for some weird job that utilised both skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rob182 said: I'm being made redundant next year. My company has a good redundancy package, of which, part of it is that they give you £2k funding for training. I'm wondering whether to just complete a load of courses/qualifications in my current field of Anti Money Laundering/ Financial Crime, or whether to use that to train in something completely new. The one criteria they've given us for the training, is that all the training we do must be with a view to getting a job in that field. Ie: I couldn't do a plumbing course AND a Financial Crime course, unless I could prove I was applying for some weird job that utilised both skills. You're gonna be a baddie?! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: If appearance is vital for a role - and frankly I think it's not particularly important for most roles, but let's play along here - it still has nothing to do with a candidate's ability to do the job. If a boss needs her employees to have their top button done up or to be wearing a three-piece suit, then they can state that clearly during orientation. A company that thinks it has enough information to hire a candidate or not depending on whether they are wearing a jacket or a suit jacket is not a company that understands people, and its recruitment isn't analysing, it's just guessing. There might be a few professions where it's 'necessary' i.e. in certain client facing roles where they have extremely high expectations on appearances but (a) it shouldn't be a massive factor at all in an interview and (b) it's a pretty old hat way of thinking. I work in banking and am generally in jeans and a t-shirt because they at least realise that in order to get 'talent' in my area they need to be far less stuffy about things like dress code. Edited October 9, 2019 by Dr_Pangloss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Rob182 said: I couldn't do a plumbing course AND a Financial Crime course, unless I could prove I was applying for some weird job that utilised both skills Money Laundering is your go to there, then. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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