Wainy316 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 To keep it to two pages do people leave some of their earlier roles off or just list them with no description? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: To keep it to two pages do people leave some of their earlier roles off or just list them with no description? Depends really, my CV has a fair bit of experience that relevant to my role, but as I have alluded to I was once a redcoat and thats on there purely to highlight my soft skills, that I am not a full IT nerdlinger that will clam up in company. I have jobs after that which aren't relevant and they are removed, but for the butlins job I have a couple of lines just to show that I can talk confidently to people. So it may be a case of not being relevant, so either list it with a one liner or discard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: To keep it to two pages do people leave some of their earlier roles off or just list them with no description? I have now ditched all mention of work experience prior to becoming a teacher, with one exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 sides of A4. Older/less relevant experience gets trimmed back, to the extent my first job is now literally just dates I worked there. If you get specialised/niche/enough the actual roles become less important, even where they relate to the job you're gunning for, but not everyone is going to get to that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Wainy316 said: To keep it to two pages do people leave some of their earlier roles off or just list them with no description? I would include your last few roles with some detail and then anything before them as literally one line and a date Middle of each side is where you put the good stuff. It's the first (and often only) place people look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Chindie said: 2 sides of A4. Older/less relevant experience gets trimmed back, to the extent my first job is now literally just dates I worked there. If you get specialised/niche/enough the actual roles become less important, even where they relate to the job you're gunning for, but not everyone is going to get to that point. This guy gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Middle of each side is where you put the good stuff. It's the first (and often only) place people look. Good tip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Decision time I've been readying myself to move on. I like my current role, really like the company and genuinely really like the people I work with. But I've kind of outgrown the role. I'd been weighing up my options for a few weeks, and I have 2 real options apart from just keep on doing what I'm doing; I can either develop the more technical skills, which will mean probably taking a short term pay cut while I train up, but then it's well paid and I can work fairly independently and ignore company bullshit, or I can work more on the soft skills and go down the coaching/leadership/transformation route. An internal job posting has just gone up for the latter, and it's essentially mine if I want it, but it means basically managing and trying to motivate a bunch of people in another office who are just phoning it in, counting down to retirement, who I think will make life miserable for anyone who tries to motivate them or change their ways of working. If I went down the technical route, I could just sit in my room doing my job not talking to people. Admittedly, with a far higher likelihood of my job being sent to India. Feels like I've got a week to decide where my career goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 23 hours ago, Rob182 said: It’s new CV time. Do people recommend a CV is only 1-page nowadays? I’ve seen this mentioned in a few places. Mine is currently two, but I could strip a few things down if 1-page is the way to go. Give the below a go, I re-did my CV in November after redundancy and got myself a job straight away. The templates are really useful. https://www.reed.co.uk/career-advice/cv-examples-and-samples/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I’ve gone for a 1-page CV. I’ve worked for the same place for 12 years, with all roles relevant to what I’m applying for, so I’ve managed to separate it into current role (2 years), previous role (5 years) and then the two roles before that combined into one (5 years). The only tough part was stripping down some of the jargon and filler and still fitting in key skills, achievements and a personal statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Finally off the bench and starting in Solihull from next week. Am I right in assuming Junction 5 of the M42 is the best way from the north? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 07/02/2020 at 11:28, Wainy316 said: To keep it to two pages do people leave some of their earlier roles off or just list them with no description? A bit of both. Leave off roles completely not relevant, trim down older roles. The biggest description needs to be on current role and previous role. Definitely no more than 2 pages long in total though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Seat68 said: Finally off the bench and starting in Solihull from next week. Am I right in assuming Junction 5 of the M42 is the best way from the north? Congratulations!! Sincere apologies I've forgotten (or not read) previous posts about this aspect of your life. I'm assuming this is football? If it is then I can't overstate how much respect I have for you, playing in the fifth tier of professional English football would not be easy, just remember if you believe you can achieve. It's an achievement no one can deny you, people will try, but they are clueless (to be diplomatic), to hone your skills and train your body to that degree is truly great. I know from playing basketball in Australia's third tier about the commitments, travel and work that is put in to remain competitive, focused and motivated enough for certain standards. Stay true to the process and strive to develop your game beyond where you are now by applying yourself at every moment you decide to play, and I hope to see you in the PL one day! I imagine the incentives financially would be considerably more handsome for you then me. Unless you're African-American and went undrafted in the NBA having had a decent NCAA career, third tier and specifically Aussie players rarely get paid at all. But I digress, well done! Keep up the hard work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2020 20 hours ago, Seat68 said: Finally off the bench and starting in Solihull from next week. Am I right in assuming Junction 5 of the M42 is the best way from the north? Depends where the job is. J6 for Airport /NEC side of Solihull. There's a business park near the airport and it's the best exit for JLR J5 for Solihull Centre J4 for the shirley side of Solihull (a couple of business parks on the motorway junction here too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I accept your warm thoughts. That said bench here in the UK is when you work for a company but not assigned to a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Depends where the job is. J6 for Airport /NEC side of Solihull. There's a business park near the airport and it's the best exit for JLR J5 for Solihull Centre J4 for the shirley side of Solihull (a couple of business parks on the motorway junction here too) Solihull centre I believe. Right by the hospital I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Solihull centre I believe. Right by the hospital I think. Yep, J5 it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) I got tasked with trying to bridge the gap between the team of software testers in my office, who are mostly young, technical focused qualified QAs, with the folk in the other office who do the same job, but are older people with some domain expertise but no background in software at all. They're a bit stuck in their ways and not showing much interest in changing, or learning. The session gradually devolved in to them talking about counting down the days until retirement. Great. They're a **** cancer. Edited February 13, 2020 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Davkaus said: I got talked with trying to bridge the gap between the team of software testers in my office, who are mostly young, technical focused qualified QAs, with the folk in the other office who do the same job, but are older people with some domain expertise but no background in software at all. They're a bit stuck in their ways and not showing much interest in changing, or learning. The session gradually devolved in to them talking about counting down the days until retirement. Great. They're a **** cancer. I am not nudging retirement or a hip young gunslinger, my experience dictates this is the case and they are a **** cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 To be fair, while age appears a factor as retirement is now seemingly a big focus for them, I kind of regret directly mentioning age, because I suspect it has little to do with it. They just have a culture of "this is how we do it, this is how we've always done it, this is how we'll keep doing it", which isn't what you need when you're working for a software house going through a period of transformation. There are some jobs where you can just turn up, do your 9-5 and not worry about improving or learning, but people with that attitude in tech are just passengers, and there's enough of them I can just see them dragging the company down with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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