NoelVilla Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 So many ITKs and so little information. Doesn't add up. The little info we have to go on is pointing to american owners so how we got to Red Bull idk. If there is an announcement tomorrow its going to be about the new owners. What is happening to Lambert and Faulkner is important but secondary in this situation IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted May 18, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 I'm as confident as confident can be that if Red Bull were to take over a Premier League team they wouldn't try to change the name, the kit or the badge. I wrote a lengthy post a few months ago when they were first linked, but I'll put a summary together here - The other clubs they own are in lesser leagues, and have no identity as such. New York needed a team, Salzburg and Leipzig were in trouble. If they buy a Premier League team there will already be history and identity that Red Bull would want to leverage. Why? Look at the other three teams - who would care about what, in particular, Salzburg and Leipzig were up to? Would you know who their owners are if it weren't for a name and kit change? The leagues they are in get very little publicity so it'd require a different approach. If they buy Aston Villa then their actions will get them the publicity they'd want. Every football fan in the world knows that Manchester City are bank rolled by Abu Dhabi. It gets mentioned every time they sign a superstar, or win a trophy. Manchester City is a marketing vehicle for Abu Dhabi (last thing I heard 90% of the brand recognition for Abu Dhabi comes through City). They didn't need to change the name to Abu Dhabi FC - the Premier League gives them a platform so they can avoid it. This would be the same with Red Bull - if a team they bought won the Premier League, or signed Sergio Aguero, it would get headlines and they'd get the linked publicity. They wouldn't need to rely on "West Brom 2 Red Bull Villa 2" in the classifieds to get them air time. This isn't anything ITK about a deal, or about what they would do - it's just my opinion, informed by 15 years of working in the sports industry. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Some guy on that other forum posted that Murat Yakin will be our next manager and everyone just believes it. Easy stuff this ITK business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Derryvillan Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 I'm as confident as confident can be that if Red Bull were to take over a Premier League team they wouldn't try to change the name, the kit or the badge. I wrote a lengthy post a few months ago when they were first linked, but I'll put a summary together here - The other clubs they own are in lesser leagues, and have no identity as such. New York needed a team, Salzburg and Leipzig were in trouble. If they buy a Premier League team there will already be history and identity that Red Bull would want to leverage. Why? Look at the other three teams - who would care about what, in particular, Salzburg and Leipzig were up to? Would you know who their owners are if it weren't for a name and kit change? The leagues they are in get very little publicity so it'd require a different approach. If they buy Aston Villa then their actions will get them the publicity they'd want. Every football fan in the world knows that Manchester City are bank rolled by Abu Dhabi. It gets mentioned every time they sign a superstar, or win a trophy. Manchester City is a marketing vehicle for Abu Dhabi (last thing I heard 90% of the brand recognition for Abu Dhabi comes through City). They didn't need to change the name to Abu Dhabi FC - the Premier League gives them a platform so they can avoid it. This would be the same with Red Bull - if a team they bought won the Premier League, or signed Sergio Aguero, it would get headlines and they'd get the linked publicity. They wouldn't need to rely on "West Brom 2 Red Bull Villa 2" in the classifieds to get them air time. This isn't anything ITK about a deal, or about what they would do - it's just my opinion, informed by 15 years of working in the sports industry. Aguero up front and we still draw with the Tesco bags. Red Bull out. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 One thing is fact. There is definately a embargo on the media from Villa. They aren't even speculating at the moment. I personally think we are sold, just the details to be confirmed and signed I would say. Its rare for the media not to even speculate from all the rumors going on. Even the amateur journalists have had a little peep on here for a story in the past. Why would the media agree to this? Apparently if you break an embargo - you don't get news from that club again........so I read somewhere ! I could imagine a local paper agreeing to it under those terms but surely not the entire media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Maybe if Red Bull were to buy and not change the name but invest heavly how would that go down with the other teams in their roster who have had to make sacrifices and probably for less investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Some guy on that other forum posted that Murat Yakin will be our next manager and everyone just believes it. Easy stuff this ITK business. He would need to get his bleedin hair cut if he going to manage us - looks like a girl ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Some guy on that other forum posted that Murat Yakin will be our next manager and everyone just believes it. Easy stuff this ITK business. It's the case of people believing what they want to hear. Go on there and post something that goes against the grain, watch how much shit you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) It's the Harris lot. Keith? Calvin? Rolf? No, Eduardo. (I made this up because I like the sound of the name Eduardo Harris and because I can't remember the real one. It's mentioned a few pages back. The Philadelphia 76ers' owners.) Edited May 18, 2014 by CrackpotForeigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 One thing is fact. There is definately a embargo on the media from Villa. They aren't even speculating at the moment. I personally think we are sold, just the details to be confirmed and signed I would say. Its rare for the media not to even speculate from all the rumors going on. Even the amateur journalists have had a little peep on here for a story in the past. Why would the media agree to this? Apparently if you break an embargo - you don't get news from that club again........so I read somewhere ! I could imagine a local paper agreeing to it under those terms but surely not the entire media. Yeah probably right- I don't claim to be an expert - but I read thats how it works somewhere {twitter !!!!} I expected a story of some khazakstan warlord trying to buy us to break this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 18, 2014 Maybe if Red Bull were to buy and not change the name but invest heavly how would that go down with the other teams in their roster who have had to make sacrifices and probably for less investment. Wouldn't matter because they own them. It's also the reality of the situation too - they could throw as much money as they like at those three teams I mentioned, but no current world star is going to play in those leagues. Sports marketing tends to work on two levels, local and global. When Nike started getting heavily into football they identified key hotbeds in each country where they needed a team (Hertha Berlin, Inter, Arsenal, USA national team as a whole) and then global assets to leverage the brand like Brazil, Juventus and Manchester United. Could be a similar approach with Red Bull. They have local assets already, but nobody who is going to "move the needle". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 And it's Birmingham Red Bulls Birmingham Red Bulls FC Are by far the greatest team the world has ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 How do we think RB would compare with RL in terms of spending power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I'm starting to like the idea of Red Bull, which means it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 hell no from me to red bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 hell no from me to red bull. But surely you know whether they're involved or not already? The great oracle that you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Cheap aldi version of red bull was who I heard it was 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I think it's more likely that we are taken over by an actual red bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam3773 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Ellison is more likely to buy us than Red Bull. And change his first name to Doug. I do like the jumping on rich folk when the name is put somewhere. I heard it was Dan Bilzerian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrackpotForeigner Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2014 hell no from me to red bull. ˙pɐǝɥ sʇı uo uoıʇɔıpǝɹd ʞʇı ɹnoʎ uɹnʇ ʎluıɐʇɹǝɔ plnoʍ ʇı 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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