K-Carlsen Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Ok, let's say you have 10 apples, you give Aston Villa 2 apples. Aston Villa gives those 2 apples to a bunch of average footballers whose wage demands mean you lose a further apple every year unless you sort it out. You then do manage to find someone to sort it out for you, but it takes 2 years. How many apples have you got left? You have certain people (businesses) that turn two apples into three or four. Then you have others that turns them sour and let them go to waste. Who would you spend more apples on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ladbrokes saying we are after Defour again. Sploosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Of course his past **** ups are relevant! It's not a **** game, it's real money that he has spent. That's money down the drain that he has lost, whether that's his own fault or not is a whole other matter. So we fans should suffer because the owner made mistakes. Forgive me for not worrying that a billionaire might lose some money. Spending what you can't afford just to please the fans is an incredibly dangerous road to take. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LondonLax Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Of course his past **** ups are relevant! It's not a **** game, it's real money that he has spent. That's money down the drain that he has lost, whether that's his own fault or not is a whole other matter. So we fans should suffer because the owner made mistakes. Forgive me for not worrying that a billionaire might lose some money. It is that attitude that makes you sound like a spoilt child. We don't have any right to expect a sugar daddy owner to spend their own money on the club. The money we earn needs to be reinvested (Ellis didn't even manage that) but the extra money Lerner puts in every year on top of that is a bonus, not something to take for granted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ladbrokes saying we are after Defour again. Damn you Ladbrokes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today.Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Ok, let's say you have 10 apples, you give Aston Villa 2 apples. Aston Villa gives those 2 apples to a bunch of average footballers whose wage demands mean you lose a further apple every year unless you sort it out. You then do manage to find someone to sort it out for you, but it takes 2 years. How many apples have you got left? Are sky TV giving me a load of apples each year? Yes...but the average footballers are eating them....and the extra apples Randy puts in from his own orchard. At this point? I thought our apple books were balanced and the lazy Irish apple eater went to stoke to get his fill from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacketspuds Posted January 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2014 Can we take the Apples discussions to the relevant Randy Lerner thread please. I want to continue speculating about who we could, but won't, sign today thank you very much. :-) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I predict at5 12:01 i will read somewhere on this forum... "Gary Gardner/Okore/N'zogbia coming back will be like a new signing!" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 niks concreets from Kendrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2014 Is Hutton leaving today too? All gone very quiet on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTaylor123 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 would love us to sign that dutch lad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Of course his past **** ups are relevant! It's not a **** game, it's real money that he has spent. That's money down the drain that he has lost, whether that's his own fault or not is a whole other matter. So we fans should suffer because the owner made mistakes. Forgive me for not worrying that a billionaire might lose some money. It is that attitude that makes you sound like a spoilt child. We don't have any right to expect a sugar daddy owner to spend their own money on the club. The money we earn needs to be reinvested (Ellis didn't even manage that) but the extra money Lerner puts in every year on top of that is a bonus, not something to take for granted. Whilst I do understand your point, no one is forced to own a football club. So expecting an owner, a billionaire at that, to put money in doesn't really sound like a spoilt child attitude to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Ok, let's say you have 10 apples, you give Aston Villa 2 apples. Aston Villa gives those 2 apples to a bunch of average footballers whose wage demands mean you lose a further apple every year unless you sort it out. You then do manage to find someone to sort it out for you, but it takes 2 years. How many apples have you got left? Are sky TV giving me a load of apples each year? Yes...but the average footballers are eating them....and the extra apples Randy puts in from his own orchard. At this point? I thought our apple books were balanced and the lazy Irish apple eater went to stoke to get his fill from now on. Sorry we shoudl probably be talking about these apples in the Lerner thread. Back on topic, how trustable are Ladbrookes as a source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRoy Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ladrbokes make up transfer news so that people stick money on the potential transfer on their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Ok, let's say you have 10 apples, you give Aston Villa 2 apples. Aston Villa gives those 2 apples to a bunch of average footballers whose wage demands mean you lose a further apple every year unless you sort it out. You then do manage to find someone to sort it out for you, but it takes 2 years. How many apples have you got left? Are sky TV giving me a load of apples each year? Yes...but the average footballers are eating them....and the extra apples Randy puts in from his own orchard. At this point? I thought our apple books were balanced and the lazy Irish apple eater went to stoke to get his fill from now on. That may be the case (I have no idea) but why, having just balanced the apple growth/consumption number.... why would I go out and find another apple eater just to make so I can keep some apple eating enthusiasts happy, putting myself back into apple defecit when I have spent 3 years trying to avoid that exact situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I predict at5 12:01 i will read somewhere on this forum... "Gary Gardner/Okore/N'zogbia coming back will be like a new signing!" Zog actually could make that so this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 How many 'better' clubs would actually be in for him though? Absolutely ZERO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This apple metaphor is labored at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Right lets play a game. I am Randy Lerner. I have invested £200m+ into Aston Villa. I've paid off 3 managers in 3 seasons, and now (I think) have the manager that suits my agenda. After a horrorshow last season my club is now comfortably sat 10th in the league. Explain to me why I should invest more money into Aston Villa today. Well firstly I don't think your past **** ups are relevant reasons as to not to spend now. Also as 'the plan' is to spend what we can afford, we could build on our 10th place, finish higher up in the league and secure more TV revenue. With a world cup coming up in the summer we could find an increase in fees and wage demands of some of our targets and finally it gives players a chance to bed in and allows the team to have a better chance of starting stronger next season. Of course his past **** ups are relevant! It's not a **** game, it's real money that he has spent. That's money down the drain that he has lost, whether that's his own fault or not is a whole other matter. So we fans should suffer because the owner made mistakes. Forgive me for not worrying that a billionaire might lose some money. It is that attitude that makes you sound like a spoilt child. We don't have any right to expect a sugar daddy owner to spend their own money on the club. The money we earn needs to be reinvested (Ellis didn't even manage that) but the extra money Lerner puts in every year on top of that is a bonus, not something to take for granted. Whilst I do understand your point, no one is forced to own a football club. So expecting an owner, a billionaire at that, to put money in doesn't really sound like a spoilt child attitude to me. But you're also expecting that owner to treat the club like a fan would rather than as a businessman. If I'm running a football club, have pumped in hundreds of millions and am currently holding on to a loss making entity, I'm not just going to throw more money at it for the reason of "the fans are moaning again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 So, should I waste my evening watching Jim White or not? I think it's worth watching just for Natalie Sawyer... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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