Enda Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I counted at least four times in the second half against Malaga where they had a player in space in the box. A quick pass or even an unfortunate ricochet would have seen them with the ball, in the box, unmarked. Four times! I really like Tony Moon, but I don't think his positional awareness is much better than Joe Bennett's. He's been left standing against opposition of the quality of Shamrock Rovers and Walsall. I fear Arsenal and Chelsea are going to tear him to shreds. I'd love nothing more than to come on here and eat my words on September 1st, but I think we'll be bottom of the table with no points after the first three matches of the season. (Miserable old sod, eh?) It's been a very good transfer window for us, but I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. Defensively, we're shit. It's going to be a bumpy ride this season again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Posted August 10, 2013 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2013 Whats your surname mate 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I still think we need to strengthen at the back, another centre half who is good enough to go straight into the first team is required IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Sorry Enda, disagree with most of your points but don't have the will to list why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 "We just need to attack more!" - Paul Lambert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) I think its something were going to have to grin and bear with Lambert, lets be honest other than half a season with young dunne Collins Warnock as our back 4, we've been awful at basic defending since mellberg left and Maureen retired Edited August 10, 2013 by Jimzk5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Have to agree, I think some of it due to tactical naivety by Lambert and others due to the poor positioning by both fullbacks. We did get exposed far too much and it is certainly a worry for the upcoming season amongst the many positives. Especially agree about Luna, his positioning was atrocious in an otherwise good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Absolutely agree, I counted multiple times where they clipped a ball over the top of the defence and there was a Malaga player waiting. Very disappointing second half. Lambert should have changed it up and put Sylla and Westwood in the middle, Sylla especially. No energy in the second half at all. Worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Lambert should have changed it up and put Sylla and Westwood in the middle, Sylla especially. No energy in the second half at all. Worrying. It was a friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 bore bore bore - we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Nah, it won't. Stop panicking lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 If this happens when the season starts then sure this topic is valid.. but it's preseason and it was a friendly so I think it's worth just looking beyond it and see what happens when the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 The majority of the players switched off after we went 3 up. Were probably more concerned with not getting injured than anything else. We tore them apart before that so even if we are lacking defensively, we certainly aint lacking offensively and that will do for me for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 10, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 10, 2013 I think if you look at the pre-season as a whole, Lowton is still better going forwards than backwards and Luna is definitely better going forwards than defending. Our middle two I guess will probably be Okore and Vlaar who look okay, but don't get a huge amount of protection from midfield. Delph can help cover Luna and I think that will be key, but I think the OP is right, I think we'll concede a lot of goals this year - we just have to make sure we score a lot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I think if you look at the pre-season as a whole, Lowton is still better going forwards than backwards and Luna is definitely better going forwards than defending. Our middle two I guess will probably be Okore and Vlaar who look okay, but don't get a huge amount of protection from midfield. Delph can help cover Luna and I think that will be key, but I think the OP is right, I think we'll concede a lot of goals this year - we just have to make sure we score a lot too. How do we all think Bacuna looks defensively? At right back I mean. Maybe in the games where we will need to defend we'll see our defensive unit shaping up differently: Bacuna Okore Vlaar Baker Sylla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I can't see us dropping Lowton to play Bacuna as a make shift right back unless forced to. I think our poor defense is as much about the way we play as the personnel we have. Probably more so in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I can't see us dropping Lowton to play Bacuna as a make shift right back unless forced to. I think our poor defense is as much about the way we play as the personnel we have. Probably more so in fact. Even with Lowton staying at right back, Baker is a lot more solid defensively at left back and Sylla should provide more protection in his new anchoring role. I expect that we'll let quite a few in again this season, but I don't think it will be as many as last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Just have to rely on our attacking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 We seemed to struggle with the ball over the top today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 We seemed to struggle with the ball over the top today. We did, and it looked to be at least partly due to the lack of a big defender to get his nut on them. Could this be the factor that eventually sees Baker come in to play alongside Okore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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