sne Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 minutes ago, bobzy said: Was it small time for Martinez to shush Lille fans and dance in front of them or was that OK? It's all the same stuff. Did the Coventry fans pelt him with bottles and what not the whole game? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, sne said: Did the Coventry fans pelt him with bottles and what not the whole game? What? We're not on about Coventry fans - Genie is referring to Fernandes mouthing off at the Coventry keeper. I said he probably gave some verbals to Fernandes - it's what happens and is "fine" IMO. The Martinez reference is that he got verbals from the Lille fans and then gave it back; again I'm OK with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 21 minutes ago, bobzy said: Was it small time for Martinez to shush Lille fans and dance in front of them or was that OK? It's all the same stuff. Lille be a similar level club to us, if he did it against a team like Mostar or Hibs be different 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: Lille be a similar level club to us, if he did it against a team like Mostar or Hibs be different If you're getting abuse/verbals, you have every right to give it back. Doesn't matter on the level that the club is at - that's nonsense to be honest. (Although FWIW, I'd say Coventry are on a similar level to Man Utd). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 8 minutes ago, bobzy said: If you're getting abuse/verbals, you have every right to give it back. No you don’t, not as a professional footballer. You suck it up and act professionally. Emi could have lost us the game by getting sent off. He could have also started a riot or violence with his behaviour. It was unacceptable and does not reflect well on Villa as a club. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Genie said: No you don’t, not as a professional footballer. You suck it up and act professionally. Emi could have lost us the game by getting sent off. He could have also started a riot or violence with his behaviour. It was unacceptable and does not reflect well on Villa as a club. There's a fine line I think. The dancing and celebrating was ok with me; Emi had been getting all sorts of abuse continually throughout the game. It was also a bad idea to have the penalties in front of the Lille ultras given how they'd behaved too. Emi was also celebrating getting to a Euro semi final. Anthony was giving stick to Cov fans who haven't played on this stage for a long while (FA Cup semi final, not Wembley) and may never get here again given the nature of modern football. Anthony didn't play particularly well either, so that sticks in the throat. Emi saved two penalties to put us through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: The dancing and celebrating was ok with me I see it as unnecessary antagonising which as I said could have cost us if he’d been sent off, or caused an issue in the ground for supporters. I’d say that was worse than what Antony / Rat Face did personally but I expect I am in the minority in this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 30 minutes ago, bobzy said: (Although FWIW, I'd say Coventry are on a similar level to Man Utd). 3-3 after playing for 120 minutes suggests you're right! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 31 minutes ago, Genie said: I see it as unnecessary antagonising which as I said could have cost us if he’d been sent off, or caused an issue in the ground for supporters. I’d say that was worse than what Antony / Rat Face did personally but I expect I am in the minority in this board. Funny the double standards that exist between GKs celebrating and a goalscorer celebrating isn’t it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 30 minutes ago, Genie said: I see it as unnecessary antagonising which as I said could have cost us if he’d been sent off, or caused an issue in the ground for supporters. I’d say that was worse than what Antony / Rat Face did personally but I expect I am in the minority in this board. I understand where you're coming from, I agree that it was unprofessional that Emi went to the extremes he did. The result and the team is more important than settling a score. I just think where we differ is that what he did was more understandable than what Anthony did. Emi had been abused all game. It's not as if Coventry have targeted Anthony because of his behavior in a previous game or incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 59 minutes ago, bobzy said: If you're getting abuse/verbals, you have every right to give it back. Doesn't matter on the level that the club is at - that's nonsense to be honest. (Although FWIW, I'd say Coventry are on a similar level to Man Utd). but you have to remember of course, it depends on how you choose to give it back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 He did that and he wasn't even one of the five penalty takers?! Guy costs 80m and just refuses responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 22 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, bobzy said: If you're getting abuse/verbals, you have every right to give it back. Doesn't matter on the level that the club is at - that's nonsense to be honest. I do kind of agree, but I also think you have to DO something to give you the right to do that. Anthony did **** all. He didn't even take a penalty. And he's giving it large It's not that he shouldn't do it, it's just really really cringe that he did 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Genie said: No you don’t, not as a professional footballer. You suck it up and act professionally. Emi could have lost us the game by getting sent off. He could have also started a riot or violence with his behaviour. It was unacceptable and does not reflect well on Villa as a club. Nah not having that. They say there's too few characters in the game. Gave us one of the most memorable nights ever. Love Emi. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Jammiest team I have ever seen. How they keep getting the rub of the green is insane. They say it evens out over a season but there is no way it's been evened out in their case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Looks like they took the var from the wrong point as the ball was scooped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just on the Antony thing, leaving out whether it's disrespectful or not, from a purely practical point of view it's incredibly stupid as he's now probably scuppered one of his few potential moves he's got this summer as Coventry won't buy him now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Antony was also ready to celebrate wildly before realising it was just him and Hojlund. They are such a hilarious mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 So many key decisions go their way. The turd that just won't flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pinebro said: So many key decisions go their way. The turd that just won't flush. I was a little surprised with the late Coventry pen. It wasn’t massively different to the one not given against City. I was expecting it to be cancelled. Edited April 22 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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