Keyblade Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Pogba was immense at the WC, and an absolute beast at Juventus. It's not really a shot in the dark to suggest that he's being stifled by Mourinho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: They struggled through an easy group, beat a poor Argentina, a limited Uruguay, a badly coached Belgium and an exhausted Croatia Fair play they win but nothing memorable I see what you're saying now. Agree that they didn't really come up against a challenge until they played Belgium. Still I thought they played some nice football along the way even though it was mostly on the break. Their one touch and flick on play was quite impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Pogba was immense at the WC, and an absolute beast at Juventus. It's not really a shot in the dark to suggest that he's being stifled by Mourinho. He was carried at Juventus though. Best defence in modern football plus Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio creating for him and he had a free role and little responsibility . Maybe United is not suited for him but you dont pay 90 million for a fairweather player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, Zatman said: He was carried at Juventus though. Best defence in modern football plus Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio creating for him and he had a free role and little responsibility . Maybe United is not suited for him but you dont pay 90 million for a fairweather player You do when you're Manchester United and have ambitions of winning the league and beyond. This isn't a Burnley or Brighton who need tough players in a relegation fight. Pogba is a world class advanced midfielder, and if it takes having defensive solidity behind him to get the best out of him then you get that for him. We all saw him for France, he stole the show at the WC. Any of the elite teams would love to have a player like that in their teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Pogba seems to have a lot of technical talent, but like a lot of footballers - doesn't apply it very often. He does have a bit of "bambi on ice" about him too, but it seems like he does play better when he isn't in Red. Strange really. Pressure must get to him on some occasions, but when he's really up for it, he does do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 What a tender moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, sne said: What a tender moment He just wants what is rightfully his. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: He just wants what is rightfully his. True. 'Think we all can identify with feeling regret after walking out of the barber feeling we've made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, sne said: True. 'Think we all can identify with feeling regret after walking out of the barber feeling we've made a mistake. Some of us yea.. Not you though I imagine.. baldy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, lapal_fan said: Some of us yea.. Not you though I imagine.. baldy Hahaha too true. Been almost 15 years since I shave my hair off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I hate Fellaini. Next to no ability just a thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Hope they beat Fulham so that Mourinho will sit longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) On 06/12/2018 at 00:31, Keyblade said: Pogba was immense at the WC, and an absolute beast at Juventus. It's not really a shot in the dark to suggest that he's being stifled by Mourinho. Two issues, 1. He wasn't immense at the WC, that's a complete myth IMO. He just played okay and was disciplined well by Deschamps. Plus it's easy to look good when Kanté is doing the work of two players beside you. 2. He's wasn't that good at Juventus either IMO. The year before he moved to Man United he was made the centre piece of the team playing in a number 10 role and he failed. I don't think Juve were too unhappy to see him leave, especially for the King's ransom they got. He played his best when pirlo was running the show in midfield and Pogba was playing in the left channel. He's got the talent but according to reports out of Man Utd he thinks he understands the game/tactics and doesn't listen to instruction, instead just doing his own thing out on the pitch. The problem is that he doesn't understand tactics at all and he isn't half as good as he thinks he is. If he could get some discipline into his game and do the simple things instead of constantly trying to make a one man highlight reel during each game he'd be a good player. Now he has one good game in every 5 and when he's bad he has a huge negative impact on the team. Edited December 7, 2018 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 06/12/2018 at 00:21, Zatman said: They struggled through an easy group, beat a poor Argentina, a limited Uruguay, a badly coached Belgium and an exhausted Croatia Fair play they win but nothing memorable Belgium were brilliant first half v Brazil, Uruguay is always a tough opponent in knockouts although Cavani being injured was crucial. France did what they had to do and played a formation (after the Australia game) that suited their personnel e.g. Pogba in a 3 man midfield with defence minded players like Matudi and Kante alongside him so proper licence to cross the halfway line. Not saying he's been great this season (tbh I just think he's downed tools like Hazard famously did in Mourinho's last Chelsea season) but surely he'd play well under a manager like Pochettino who's got even Sissoko looking like a good player this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 06/12/2018 at 19:26, penguin said: I hate Fellaini. Next to no ability just a thug. Big problem with Man. United is they keep giving contract extensions to average squad players. Fellani been there since 2013. Rojo since 2014. Phil Jones since 2011. Smalling since 2010. Valencia since 2009. Some of those should've been sold long ago, they would've been under Fergie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 smalling was linked with a new £150k a week 5 year contract the other week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Mourinho keeps winning when he is 1 game away from the sack. It is kinda hilarious really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2018 Them qualifying for the next round of the champions league secured his job for now. He could lose today or next week and it wouldn’t matter. When they get dumped out of the champions league, then the heat will really be on him in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It is sad to watch a once great club reduced to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: It is sad to watch a once great club reduced to this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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