DelboyVilla Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 When he came on against ManCity both his touch, positioning and tackling looked awful. Hope we don't have to see that again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 He can't control the ball which will likely hold him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yeah his technique is dodgy, we've scouted the only Dutch footballer who can't control a ball seemingly. The only thing I'd say on that is there are plenty of examples of high energy premier league players who don't have great touch and control but still make a decent career so I wouldn't right him off just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Play him further up the pitch where he can threaten the opponent's goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 The Mirror ran an article the other week suggesting that Bacuna didn't get along with Roy Keane or something. Could be complete tosh of course but I suppose it's a theory. It read like it was complete nonsense to be honest. Bacuna being out of the team just coincided with Roy Keane arriving at the club and the mirror are trying to put 2+2 together to fabricate a non-existent story. Bacuna isn't getting game time because we aren't that desperate (yet) and Hutton is back in the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Was Bacuna a RB for Groningen? Just interested to understand why we seem to want to play him there. I always thought he was a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 He was a utility man for Groningen, so he left. We bought him as an attacking midfielder, but then we found out he's got a shocking lack of technical attributes, apart from free kick taking. So we then stuck him at RB, but because he can't defend well, we stuck him at RW, but then we realised he can't really attack that well either.. So now he's on the bench because there isn't a stand out position for him, so we'll use him to fill in the gaps when we pick up injuries, a bit like Groningen.. Which is probably why "apparently" he wants to move clubs now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) He should play because: He can score freekicks He is fast, physical and gets forward Even if just as an impact sub. I don't think he is technically that bad, just seems to lack concentration and composure at critical times, but that is probably more down to him being fairly inexperienced in this league. Edited November 7, 2014 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It read like it was complete nonsense to be honest. Bacuna being out of the team just coincided with Roy Keane arriving at the club and the mirror are trying to put 2+2 together to fabricate a non-existent story. Bacuna isn't getting game time because we aren't that desperate (yet) and Hutton is back in the fold. Regarding the article, yes most likely. Though it does feel like something might be up with Bacuna. He didn't even make the last matchday squad despite Hutton being injured. God knows who would've gone to right-back had Lowton had to come off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 7, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2014 Also, everybody is crying out for us to keep the ball and retain possession. Bacuna is not the man for that job. He works hard and can burst forward and chip in with goals. But he is ropey in possession. He isn't the kind of player who will do well at possession football. We are never going to be anything other than a low-possession side under Lambert though so it is a moot point for now. Is it? In plenty of other threads people are moaning that Lambert needs to make us play better football. But you're saying it doesn't matter because Lambert will never play like that. I don't see how anybody (and I'm not saying it's you) who wants us to play possession based football could want Bacuna in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Is it? In plenty of other threads people are moaning that Lambert needs to make us play better football. But you're saying it doesn't matter because Lambert will never play like that. I don't see how anybody (and I'm not saying it's you) who wants us to play possession based football could want Bacuna in the team. I'm not overly obssessed on whether we become a possession based side per se but I'm never going to be content with us being one of the worst teams in the division in that department either. Which I'd say is basically an indicator that we approach most of our games with an inferiority complex. However, that is the primitive and limited approach that will always be implemented whilst Lambert is the manager and the personnel are pretty irrelevent in regards to that. Bacuna hasn't played at all this season yet we are no better in possession than last season. So as long as we continue to participate in matches where we have less than 40% of the ball, it is most important that you have players who can defend first and foremost. And for the reasons I gave yesterday, I believe Bacuna is better than Lowton at this. Although Hutton (as average as he is) is better than both so hopefully he'll stay fit once he recovers from this injury. Edited November 7, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Like a lot of Lambert's signings he was bargain basement and we've got what we paid for. He was refreshing in that he scored some free kicks but in general play he's not going to be consistent enough I wouldn't have thought. A good squad player for where we are at the moment, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on him. We need our back 5 back together ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 He played almost evrey game last season, has he upset lambert? he could atleast bring him on as a sub sometimes its strange the treatment players get at this club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 To be fair he's not a great player. OK to have in the squad as cover but what does he really offer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'd like to see him play on the right wing for Andi this weekend. He'd offer good defensive cover for Hutton (better than N'Zogbia for sure) and gets forward well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Against Leicester I'd rather a more attacking option like nzogbia or grealish than bacuna in there to work hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 a bit nondescript....we have a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The last thing we need on the pitch is more players that can't control a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Against Leicester I'd rather a more attacking option like nzogbia or grealish than bacuna in there to work hard. That's a fair point. In the future I wouldn't mind seeing Bacuna deployed on the wing and Andi up top with Benteke and relieved of his defending duties. But you're right, the Leicester game we shouldn't need to be so cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Good player to come on and see out a lead as he's a hell of an athlete. Other than that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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