OutByEaster? Posted February 19, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 hours ago, magnkarl said: Texas has very little renewable energy. Following my education by Blandy yesterday I can confirm that this isn't true. If Texas was a country, it would be the 5th largest producer of renewable energy on the planet - it produces pretty much double the amount that the next largest producing US State produces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted February 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 19, 2021 While renewables were not the cause of the current problem in Texas, it's clear that there's a need for a certain amount of diversification of sources to prevent future catastrophes. So the right wingers are technically right to an extent that this type of scenario could easily occur again if they move completely to renewables. Of course, it could also just as easily occur if they remain as heavily invested in fossil fuels and don't winterize their systems, so their attacks on the Green New Deal are opportunistic and disingenuous, at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, il_serpente said: While renewables were not the cause of the current problem in Texas, it's clear that there's a need for a certain amount of diversification of sources to prevent future catastrophes. So the right wingers are technically right to an extent that this type of scenario could easily occur again if they move completely to renewables. Of course, it could also just as easily occur if they remain as heavily invested in fossil fuels and don't winterize their systems, so their attacks on the Green New Deal are opportunistic and disingenuous, at best. You can still diversify within renewables though as well as storing power when the grid is hot to use when it needs a boost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 We will get to a place where fossil fuels are phased out of the grid pretty quickly, just based on the prevailing market forces. Unfortunately energy generation is only one piece of the problem that needs to be solved. Other crucial aspects that are more difficult to solve or find replacements for are meat, concrete and steel production. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Texas is gonna Texas and this Tim Boyd guy really is as U.S.A as is humanly possible. That quote is fantastic and deserves to be posted again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted February 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, sne said: Texas is gonna Texas and this Tim Boyd guy really is as U.S.A as is humanly possible. That quote is fantastic and deserves to be posted again. I wonder what he thought about that socialist libtard Jesus feeding the 5000. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, limpid said: I wonder what he thought about that socialist libtard Jesus feeding the 5000. Probably thinks he deserved to be crucified 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 These Republicans (especially from central and mountain time zones) seem to want to go back in time to a frontier existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Not really sure what NewsmaxTV is but I imagine they are a stand up, balanced news outlet who focuses on the important issues facing real people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, sne said: Not really sure what NewsmaxTV is but I imagine they are a stand up, balanced news outlet who focuses on the important issues facing real people? That is hilarious. I can just hear the gun toting MAGA members sitting round their TV set's nodding their heads and agreeing with all that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 hours ago, sne said: Texas is gonna Texas and this Tim Boyd guy really is as U.S.A as is humanly possible. That quote is fantastic and deserves to be posted again. Where do you even start with that diatribe of crap. I’d start with the frequent lacking in basic spelling and punctuation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Where do you even start with that diatribe of crap. I’d start with the frequent lacking in basic spelling and punctuation. Why? because your lazy is a direct result of your raising? Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish. You see, that is the meaning of Jesus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) Ted Cruz is the new low point in a now very low, spineless Republican party. He's taking the spotlight off of Graham, Cotton, Hawley et all. Blames his kids, then blames his wife, then gets ousted by the people on your wife's text group, classic. Edited February 22, 2021 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The good thing when politicians do something hard-to-defend is that the attempts to defend them are usually pretty amusing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: The good thing when politicians do something hard-to-defend is that the attempts to defend them are usually pretty amusing: Dinesh is the master defender. I love his tweets, he is gold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Seat68 said: Dinesh is the master defender. I love his tweets, he is gold. Reading him is useful practice in spotting the flaws in deeply stupid but deceptively 'common sense' arguments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 19/02/2021 at 16:18, LondonLax said: We will get to a place where fossil fuels are phased out of the grid pretty quickly, just based on the prevailing market forces. Unfortunately energy generation is only one piece of the problem that needs to be solved. Other crucial aspects that are more difficult to solve or find replacements for are meat, concrete and steel production. Quickly? Solar was at ~0 during the Texas event, with wind not far behind. Even had they been winterized, the wind was unreliable due to the chaotic nature of the wind pattern during the weather event. It is quite often the case that when the weather is the worst either one of, or many times, both solar and wind are completely unreliable (see also California). A geographically distributed network might help (modulo losses, not insignificant), but how reliable will this be vs >99% uptime for our current power generation. If tomorrow all US new car sales were mandated electric, it would still take order 20yrs to approach 100%. The big driver will be the off road and delivery crowds, where electric will make a much bigger and more immediate impact if better efficiency (broadly defined, but $$) is demonstrated . Meat? What about large scale mono-crops or that animals can use land that is not usable for crop growth. The anti-meat to save the environment crowd are doing a great job at deflecting attention from large scale industry who is the primary polluter, and swallowing militant-vegan propaganda wholesale. Concrete/steel... oh, we'll start building from balsa wood or plastics (opps), ceramics (opps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 We are floating around on a free rotating magnet. I'm working on a way to get electricity from magnets. Wish me luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, villakram said: Quickly? Solar was at ~0 during the Texas event, with wind not far behind. Even had they been winterized, the wind was unreliable due to the chaotic nature of the wind pattern during the weather event. It is quite often the case that when the weather is the worst either one of, or many times, both solar and wind are completely unreliable (see also California). A geographically distributed network might help (modulo losses, not insignificant), but how reliable will this be vs >99% uptime for our current power generation. If tomorrow all US new car sales were mandated electric, it would still take order 20yrs to approach 100%. The big driver will be the off road and delivery crowds, where electric will make a much bigger and more immediate impact if better efficiency (broadly defined, but $$) is demonstrated . Meat? What about large scale mono-crops or that animals can use land that is not usable for crop growth. The anti-meat to save the environment crowd are doing a great job at deflecting attention from large scale industry who is the primary polluter, and swallowing militant-vegan propaganda wholesale. Concrete/steel... oh, we'll start building from balsa wood or plastics (opps), ceramics (opps). If we told the Texans there was free warmth under Texas, could they develop the technology to drill for it? It’s not that we need to build out of balsa, it’s that we need to stop building out of concrete that lasts 150 years and then knocking it down 20 years later and building something else that could last 150 years, then knock that down 20 years later. We really really are on a finite planet. It’s a problem that will resolve itself eventually if we choose not to address our suicidal tendencies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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