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2 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

The Alex Jones/sandy Hook trial has taken an interesting turn. It seems his defence lawyer accidentally sent a full digital copy of his phone and the prosecutors have every text and email he's sent in the last 3 years. 

Surely there's some dodgy January 6th stuff on there to someone. 

Yep, just about to post this. Can't understand how his lawyers "accidentally" sent a digital file of a whole phone to his opposition. All completely crazy.

Still, that's him finished now hopefully.

 

 

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3 hours ago, LondonLax said:

yeah Pelosi is great. She also is rightly angry about Chinese intelligence operations in California.

She is the legitimately elected speaker of the us house of representatives, the unelected communist dictatorship of China doesnt get to tell her where she can and cannot go.

China chose to look weak by puffing their chests then being ignored. Screw em.

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50 minutes ago, ml1dch said:

The video. Nice to watch a worm squirm.

 

That has to be malpractice by his legal team, surely. It was an enjoyable two minutes, but I wonder if it's grounds for a mistrial

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3 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

That has to be malpractice by his legal team, surely. It was an enjoyable two minutes, but I wonder if it's grounds for a mistrial

In this country it would be definite grounds for a professional negligence case.

Funnily enough the plaintiffs lawyers in the defamation hearings actually uncovered another case of his legal team (at that point - they've gone through a few) **** up and actually gave him the advice to consider bringing action against his lawyers.

If you're interested in this whole thing, the podcast Knowledge Fight, which basically does analysis and breakdowns of every episode he does, have a series of episodes covering the deposition process where they have recordings of the actual discovery sessions. They've also been covering the trial. And one of them was actually involved with the plaintiffs legal team - they've regularly appeared on episodes discussing the case.

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54 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

That has to be malpractice by his legal team, surely. It was an enjoyable two minutes, but I wonder if it's grounds for a mistrial

Not 100% sure but in the clip the prosecution highlighted that they told his lawyers and asked if it was privileged. Doesn’t appear to be respond at all by the lawyers but they may have been waiting for instructions from him.

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In the documents they did disclose when asked for, eventually, they handed over documents that included child porn and an extensive investigative report into one of the people that was suing them (a document looking for dirt in his private affairs, it seems), neither of which anyone at Info Wars can explain the existence of.

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10 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said:

Thats brilliant. I love the way the prosecutor toys with his prey for a while before going in for the kill.

His "Perry Mason moment". 

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This is actually about his 8th or 9th lawyer in this case. I believe the current guys are actually criminal prosecutors by specialism. This kind of case, where the 'guilt' is already decided and they are basically trying to persuade the jury that the actions of Jones and his business haven't massively harmed the plaintiffs, that he regrets what little harm he has done, and even if the jury doesn't accept that that he has no money to pay anyway, is not their thing. Which suggests the amount of competent lawyers that were prepared to accept the case, which they knew was a forlorn hope, had been exhausted, and he's picking from anyone that fancies getting paid.

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I don't watch many US Court Cases, obviously, but I was quite taken aback by how casual and normal the judge was. For better or for worse, I'm not sure, but I can't imagine that from a judge in the UK.

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It should also be said, in respect of Jones's case, his lawyers are probably tearing their hair out, when they're already up against it, when they've already had the case poisoned by his prior lawyers and the organisation refusing to engage with the process properly, and when they have a massive pile  of evidence that can be shown that Jones peddled the lies that harmed these people for years for profit even when he had senior staff telling him to drop it because it'll kill them against... that he was going on air while the trial was ongoing and deriding the process, the judge and even the **** jury.

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Jury has ruled $4m in compensatory damages against Jones. This is,  according to those that know, apparently quite high for purely emotional damages. 

They also have to decide punitive damages. This will be higher. But unlikely to be enormous - apparently states have rules on the extent of punitary damages, and Texas has a fairly low bar for maximum at which things can be set based on net worth. Therefore its unlikely to be apocalyptic to the business.

On the plus side though, Jones has more of these cases to come, in other states, with multiple other plaintiffs. He's going to be rogered a good few more times. I just hope the US system is strong and clever enough to unravel what he and the business is actually worth, not what his accountants games make him out to be.

Also the **** up by his lawyers had got him on the hook for things like the Jan. 6th Commission...

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6 minutes ago, Chindie said:

Also the **** up by his lawyers had got him on the hook for things like the Jan. 6th Commission...

Yep this is likely going to go from not just financial damage, he could face more serious issues if there is something in that data

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$45m in punitive damages awarded against the bloated putting sack of shit.

His defence suggested a figure of $200k in their closing statements.

It's a decent figure to somewhat hurt him, more than I expected to come through, but not enough to cripple him, based on the best estimate of the money we can figure out he likely has. And he has 2 more cases to come, one of which has 10 plaintiffs iirc.

A shame he's ferreted money off in a attempt to appear poor - his grift requires him to portray himself as a little guy fighting the powers that be that are aligned with the devil (literally) so he regularly appears to hide his money in various places. He actually regularly has day long shows where he literally just begs for money.

Hard to justify that when you're a very wealthy person.

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58 minutes ago, bobzy said:

The truly sad thing is that he will continue to spout his vile nonsense - and plenty of people will continue to back him.

 

Go figure.

Hopefully it might stop other people from going that route in the future, Jones can probably afford it but a new conspiracy peddling that might think twice.  The amazing thing for me is that he sells diet supplements.

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