Nigel Posted November 2, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2020 They looked a shadow of the side that played us last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Nigel said: They looked a shadow of the side that played us last week! Because Rodgers did his homework on them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, Nigel said: They looked a shadow of the side that played us last week! Leicester did what leeds did to us but better. Leeds finishing was not as clinical this week either. That was the difference. They got a real pasting tonight bought back down to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Enjoyable night. I still think the hype is well OTT. And their fans are hilarious hypocrites. The shit they give Grealish, he's never done anything like that dive tonight or what Bamford did against us a couple of years ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Nigel said: They looked a shadow of the side that played us last week! That what happens when you run like they do in games then stupidly train yourselves into the ground. It's why Bielsa has won nothing in his career. They'll have many other games this season dead on their feet and they'll all be funny to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Nigel said: They looked a shadow of the side that played us last week! First goal wins innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 They're not the good, we shouldn't be getting stuffed 3-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, AVFCforever1991 said: They're not the good, we shouldn't be getting stuffed 3-0 We shouldn't be giving southampton a 4 goal head start either but it happened. We are going to be inconsistent this season because we only have 11 players. If they are all on their game we'll play well otherwise who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I just knew after beating us in the way that they did they would then go on to get battered the following week. Hopefully more spankings to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 He should get a retrospective ban for that dive. I don't suppose that's even possible, but that is absolutely blatant, pre-meditated cheating, and it should receive the harshest possible punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, AVFCforever1991 said: They're not the good, we shouldn't be getting stuffed 3-0 It's not that they were better against us. It's that we played straight into their hands. Trying to go toe to toe with them, attempting to beat them at their own game. Very, very naive from Smith. Rodgers obviously had a well thought out and well executed gameplan. Edited November 3, 2020 by villalad21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's not that they were better against us. It's that we played straight into their hands. Trying to go toe to toe with them, attempting to beat them at their own game. Very, very naive from Smith. Rodgers obviously had a well thought out and well executed gameplan. This. We should have played more passive, compact and counter-attacking. Their workrate is practically unmatched in this league and there was no way we were going to match them on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: He should get a retrospective ban for that dive. I don't suppose that's even possible, but that is absolutely blatant, pre-meditated cheating, and it should receive the harshest possible punishment. What happened to the bans for simulation? That seems to have disappeared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: He should get a retrospective ban for that dive. I don't suppose that's even possible, but that is absolutely blatant, pre-meditated cheating, and it should receive the harshest possible punishment. Didnt they ban Bamford after the El ghazi dive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 40 minutes ago, Zatman said: Didnt they ban Bamford after the El ghazi dive? Actually, I think you're right, they did. Hope that happens again then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 3, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2020 They were absolutely battered last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Edit: ignore me Edited November 3, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyman Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Does it not still hinge on "successful deception of an official?" i.e you only get banned if you successfuly gain from it (like Bamford did in 2019 with AEG going off) Daft to not book someone for that dive on the pitch though, particularly if I still have to suffer occasional debilitating flashbacks to the Kevin Friend debacle at Palace Both of those incidents happened four months apart, last year, because time no longer has meaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 3, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: It's not that they were better against us. It's that we played straight into their hands. Trying to go toe to toe with them, attempting to beat them at their own game. Very, very naive from Smith. Rodgers obviously had a well thought out and well executed gameplan. Well, if that was the case, how did we beat Leicester? What with Brendan being so able to out-think Bielsa? Personally, it's not nearly so simple. Leeds played extremely well against Villa, who had, for whatever reason, a few players off their peak, whereas Bamford against us turned into Van Basten. He reverted to type last night. Leeds had a few players do poorly, whereas all Leicester's team played well. I think ultimately Bielsa gets players to all work incredibly hard, Leeds have an unusual way of playing and when they're all at it, they're a proper handful. As the season goes on, they'll get sused a bit more, players will tire, get injured, be suspended and it'll get harder. Equally, when they're good, they're good to watch, attack minded and should be good enough to stay up easily. With us, we need to stop getting carried away with big wins, or big defeats and understand that when our best players are at it, we're good. If anyone is below par we're ordinary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, blandy said: Well, if that was the case, how did we beat Leicester? What with Brendan being so able to out-think Bielsa? Personally, it's not nearly so simple. Leeds played extremely well against Villa, who had, for whatever reason, a few players off their peak, whereas Bamford against us turned into Van Basten. He reverted to type last night. Leeds had a few players do poorly, whereas all Leicester's team played well. I think ultimately Bielsa gets players to all work incredibly hard, Leeds have an unusual way of playing and when they're all at it, they're a proper handful. As the season goes on, they'll get sused a bit more, players will tire, get injured, be suspended and it'll get harder. Equally, when they're good, they're good to watch, attack minded and should be good enough to stay up easily. With us, we need to stop getting carried away with big wins, or big defeats and understand that when our best players are at it, we're good. If anyone is below par we're ordinary. I think Vardy being out was a massive, massive blow to them. He completely changes the way they can play. Listening to Rodgers pre match interview it was very evident he studied them and had a clear game plan. Rodgers usually although they are deadly on the counter prefers to dominate the ball. Against Bielsa he abandoned all that. He let them have the ball and waited for them to make mistakes before unleashing his incredibly dangerous counter attacking players. After listening to Smith pre game interview against Leeds all he said was "You have to match their work rate". That isn't happening. No one can match their work rate, stats proves it. You need to find different ways to win. He tried to beat Bielsa at his own game, in my opinion it was a big, big mistake. Leeds is a very unique opponent and you need to be careful how you approach the game or you'll get ripped apart. Edited November 3, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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