Popular Post DCJonah Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 All the fuss about them. Smith has out performed biesla since the moment he arrived, yet all the hype surrounds him. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 12 hours ago, KAZZAM said: Remember when the media were creaming themselves when Leeds lost 4-3 to Liverpool ? yeh about that... Say what you will about Leeds, but the length of their grass is beyond reproach. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: All the fuss about them. Smith has out performed biesla since the moment he arrived, yet all the hype surrounds him. It is so true. Smith gets no credit let biesla is the messiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 If Leeds did what we did last night they'd give Bielsa manager of the season now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrSmirch Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: All the fuss about them. Smith has out performed biesla since the moment he arrived, yet all the hype surrounds him. Yeah but Bielsa has a bucket 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Although slightly irritating, I am viewing it as a positive now for us (& Smith) that Bielsa and Leeds are getting all the plaudits - F*** em. Let's just keep going about our business as we are, with no pressure or expectation and keep proving the clueless media wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: It is so true. Smith gets no credit let biesla is the messiah Let them underestimate us less pressure to that way we can go about our business and continue to “surprise “ them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, WakefieldVillan said: Although slightly irritating, I am viewing it as a positive now for us (& Smith) that Bielsa and Leeds are getting all the plaudits - F*** em. Let's just keep going about our business as we are, with no pressure or expectation and keep proving the clueless media wrong. Because nobody can prove otherwise, I'm just assuming it's because they know we're superior and they quietly expect this sort of thing from us. If anything, we should've scored double figures, so they think we were wasteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: All the fuss about them. Smith has out performed biesla since the moment he arrived, yet all the hype surrounds him. If only Smith had a fancier name, an unpredictable temperament and a spotty track record then the media might give him credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 03/10/2020 at 23:39, HanoiVillan said: Our two games in hand on them are Liverpool and City. I will think we've done very well if we get 1 point out of those 2 fixtures. People now laughing at this post, and not without good reason! Never been so happy to have my expectations exceeded! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted October 5, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Zatman said: If only Smith had a fancier name, an unpredictable temperament and a spotty track record then the media might give him credit I dont know why everybody on this forum cares so much about what Sky are saying? Theyre writing whatever gets clicks, its not that deep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, Rino8 said: I dont know why everybody on this forum cares so much about what Sky are saying? You don't know why fans of a football club want the manager of their club to receive what they perceive to be due credit in the media coverage? Bielsa is obviously a widely respected manager but the praise he receives has become almost a running joke. Someone in the punditry thread said this morning TalkSport were questioning whether Villa's win was inspired by Bielsa's Leeds I can't even type that out without giggling, it's just so funny. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted October 5, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, YouUnastanFren said: You don't know why fans of a football club want the manager of their club to receive what they perceive to be due credit in the media coverage? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Leeds are a good story this year. Its easy to write and has got a lot of interest around the world due to the manager. Theyre going to milk that for all its worth. Villa have done sensible good business with a quietly good manager. It doesn't make for as exciting a read. As soon as we lose a few around Christmas the entire world will be saying 'typical Leeds, typical Bielsa, been found out' etc etc. You lose a couple and nothing will happen, it works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Rino8 said: Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's people wearing knee high socks running around kicking a ball in a net, none of it 'matters'. Fans of things want those things to be acknowledged, that is a well observed phenomenon in every field. 7 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Leeds are a good story this year. Its easy to write and has got a lot of interest around the world due to the manager. Theyre going to milk that for all its worth. Villa have done sensible good business with a quietly good manager. It doesn't make for as exciting a read. That's the thing, I don't think Leeds is actually that exciting of a story. If they were managed by a local guy called Dave Johnson nobody would bat an eye. Villa staying up on the last day after signing a whole new team was more of a click generator than Leeds cantering to a good but not exceptional Championship points total, IMO of course. 12 minutes ago, Rino8 said: As soon as we lose a few around Christmas the entire world will be saying 'typical Leeds, typical Bielsa, been found out' etc etc. You lose a couple and nothing will happen, it works both ways. This is the funniest bit, Leeds did lose to Liverpool and somehow Bielsa got more praise for his amazing game plan than Villa and Smith did for completely dismantling their defensive system and taking them for 7. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted October 5, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, YouUnastanFren said: It's people wearing knee high socks running around kicking a ball in a net, none of it 'matters'. Fans of things want those things to be acknowledged, that is a well observed phenomenon in every field. That's the thing, I don't think Leeds is actually that exciting of a story. If they were managed by a local guy called Dave Johnson nobody would bat an eye. Villa staying up on the last day after signing a whole new team was more of a click generator than Leeds cantering to a good but not exceptional Championship points total, IMO of course. This is the funniest bit, Leeds did lose to Liverpool and somehow Bielsa got more praise for his amazing game plan than Villa and Smith did for completely dismantling their defensive system and taking them for 7. But they're not managed by a flat cap wearing pie and chips Yorkshireman. Its Bielsa. Even if you don't think its interesting the majority do. A manager lauded by all his peers never managed in England choosing to go to a Championship side is a good story. There's no arguing that. And its not about just getting promoted its who got promoted, you'd see the exact same thing if Bielsa had taken over at Forest instead. Youre not getting enough credit for the Liverpool win, but again that's because 'Liverpool collapse' gets more clicks. I've heard more about Grealish than I have your entire club this season. Its what makes money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'm happy with the lack of attention Smith, Terry and Shakespeare are getting. We don't need the extra pressure all this media hype gives and we can go about our business with the minimum of fuss. Obviously dismantling the champions is going to attract some attention but we won't be favourites against Leicester and unless we dismantle them, we won't their not as arrogant as Liverpool were , will probably not be favourites against Leeds. Isn't football great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 hours ago, YouUnastanFren said: That's the thing, I don't think Leeds is actually that exciting of a story. If they were managed by a local guy called Dave Johnson nobody would bat an eye. This is a bit 'if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle' isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: This is a bit 'if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle' isn't it. This also answers his own question as to why another club managed by a local man called Dean Smith dont get the same praise or acknowledgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rino8 said: A manager lauded by all his peers Hah. Lies. Out of interest, what's exactly impressive of his CV pre the Leeds United promotion? Edited October 5, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Rino8 said: I dont know why everybody on this forum cares so much about what Sky are saying? Theyre writing whatever gets clicks, its not that deep. It’s not just Sky, it’s most of football media. Sky, talksport, BBC, newspapers, football blogs and lesser news outlets etc. Other than the petty rivalry that’s come about recently between our clubs, I never had an issue with Leeds, and I do like Bielsa as a manager and think he is somewhat of an ‘enigma’. But so is Felix Magath. Being an enigma alone should make someone praised to the levels he is, when his managerial success is probably less than Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s. We’re a few games into the season and Leeds and Bielsa have achieved nothing more than promotion, but there is all this ridiculous talk of Leeds gate-crashing the Top 4 and other ridiculous things, just because you lost to Liverpool and got a draw at Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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