Rino8 Posted September 15, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, Zatman said: Mitrovic will get more goals than Bamford, reckon Charlie Austin if fit would outscore Bamford Bamford suits the way we play he just can't finish for shit. If he could he would be a 30 million pound player but his finishing is closer to non league level than premiership 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Bamford suits the way we play he just can't finish for shit. If he could he would be a 30 million pound player but his finishing is closer to non league level than premiership I think his movement is brilliant but finishing is dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: Liverpool didn't have a bad game. They had 22 shots. Salah was on fire. On another day they could have scored more but that doesn't take away Leeds being a handful for them and giving Liverpool a proper work out. Also Leeds had a CB pairing never played together before. Leeds and Bielsa will only improve as the season progresses and i don't think they will be anywhere near relegation. Did you watch it? Defensively Liverpool were absolutely dreadful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Did you watch it? Defensively Liverpool were absolutely dreadful He doesn't watch games, has been proven in a few threads today. He thinks Traore is a shit signing without seeing him play and Freddt Adu too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Did you watch it? Defensively Liverpool were absolutely dreadful It's a running theme now. They conceded 3 to Watford, 3 to Atletico Madrid, 5 to Man. City and 3 to Chelsea all within about 10 games if you discount the lockdown time lag. We couldn't score past them at Anfield though. Looking forward to how we play v them in a few weeks. If you properly press them like Leeds did you will get decent chances. If you sit back and just let them build up from the back you won't. Edited September 15, 2020 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Looking forward to how we play v them in a few weeks. If you properly press them like Leeds did you will get decent chances. If you sit back and just let them build up from the back you won't. Thats true but Liverpool dont have a playmaker to open up things when its 10 men behind the ball. They are at the best when attacked. But interesting last 10 games or so people started to realise Van Dijk is overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Thats true but Liverpool dont have a playmaker to open up things when its 10 men behind the ball. They are at the best when attacked. But interesting last 10 games or so people started to realise Van Dijk is overrated Who thinks hes overrated? With Liverpool they play a back 4 with the two full backs like wing backs so are very reliant on their midfield to do a lot of the defensive donkey work. So maybe thats the problem not Van Dyke. Edited September 15, 2020 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, PaulC said: Who thinks hes overrated? With Liverpool they play a back 4 with the two full backs like wing backs so are very reliant on their midfield to do a lot of the defensive donkey work. So maybe thats the problem not Van Dyke. Actual football people that dont work for Sky Sports know he is overrated. Hardly in the top 20 defenders of the last 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 16, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2020 I genuinely heard someone on either Sky or Radio 5 (can't remember which) a couple of hours ago talking about if Bielsa could win the League Cup for Leeds this season. Nope is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I genuinely heard someone on either Sky or Radio 5 (can't remember which) a couple of hours ago talking about if Bielsa could win the League Cup for Leeds this season. Nope is the answer. Lol going on like Bielsa is the management equivalent of Pele. He didn't even win a Copa America with Argentina in the years it was a 2 horse race them and Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, VillaJ100 said: Lol going on like Bielsa is the management equivalent of Pele. He didn't even win a Copa America with Argentina in the years it was a 2 horse race them and Brazil Lost the final in 2004 to a Brazil B team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 They didn't want to progress. Can concentrate on the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Very surprising result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 The treble is off the table now 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Such a shame for a proper club like Leeds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 16, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 hours ago, Zatman said: Actual football people that dont work for Sky Sports know he is overrated. Hardly in the top 20 defenders of the last 20 years To be fair in the last 20 years there has been the likes of Nesta, Maldini, Cannovaro, Roberto Carlos and Adam Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, JamesBCFC said: To be fair in the last 20 years there has been the likes of Nesta, Maldini, Cannovaro, Roberto Carlos and Adam Webster. No Nathan Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 16, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Zatman said: No Nathan Baker Injured too often, otherwise... (Seriously though, Webster a class above Baker as a defender) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 16/09/2020 at 00:31, Zatman said: Thats true but Liverpool dont have a playmaker to open up things when its 10 men behind the ball. They are at the best when attacked. But interesting last 10 games or so people started to realise Van Dijk is overrated Going OT We have the playmaker but not the movement, hopefully Watkins and the new wide men changes that It was daft, we're now obsessed with declaring goats and throwing about stats but even they don't stack up, he's a great player, easily the PLs best CB right now and arguably best CB in the world but trying to say he's better than Terry is laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 13/09/2020 at 05:41, BigRed said: You do realise that the CB’s had never played together. Cooper was injured the night before the game. 1 had only 3 days training & the other has played CB only once before. we won’t be that bad at the back again, I keep seeing excuses like this, but all I can think this is that these are reasons for exactly why you will struggle. The squad is so threadbare that 1 injury and you're left without a proper CB. Add in the Bielsa Burnout leading to fatigue/injuries and you've got a recipe for disaster. Can't wait! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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