HeyAnty Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 He's still going to be here isnt he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted January 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2017 Neither use nor ornament for us but I wish him all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, avfc1982 said: You know you're in trouble when the only compliment fans can come up with regarding a player is that "he was a nice guy" Christ, talk about damned with faint praise. Ok, how about this for faint praise; a bunch of fans who are frustrated by our lowly position hate him, yet five or six managers have used him continuously. Furthermore, a Premier League team (who are in an ok position) are buying him for a tidy sum. We remain in the Championship. Who's opinion do you listen to? The experienced football men who continually see what he can bring to a team or a group of bitter men who are ultimately displeased at their own teams demise and look for a common reason?! Much like the more reasoned posters on here, I'll applaud him if he comes back and will have only good things to say about his attitude AND performances - he has had ups and downs but largely his role will never be appreciated, especially in an underperforming team. He's got his limitations but he's going back to the Premier League for a reason. One more genuine question; we've bought a bunch of new midfielders for much lower values which I hope turn out to be big improvements to our midfield, yet no one from the Premier League has taken a chance on them so why would Ashley be seen as the safe bet/the better purchase for a Premier League team if he that bad? Good luck Ashley. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: Ok, how about this for faint praise; a bunch of fans who are frustrated by our lowly position hate him, yet five or six managers have used him continuously. Furthermore, a Premier League team (who are in an ok position) are buying him for a tidy sum. We remain in the Championship. Who's opinion do you listen to? The experienced football men who continually see what he can bring to a team or a group of bitter men who are ultimately displeased at their own teams demise and look for a common reason?! Much like the more reasoned posters on here, I'll applaud him if he comes back and will have only good things to say about his attitude AND performances - he has had ups and downs but largely his role will never be appreciated, especially in an underperforming team. He's got his limitations but he's going back to the Premier League for a reason. One more genuine question; we've bought a bunch of new midfielders for much lower values which I hope turn out to be big improvements to our midfield, yet no one from the Premier League has taken a chance on them so why would Ashley be seen as the safe bet/the better purchase for a Premier League team if he that bad? Good luck Ashley. It's easy to say numerous managers use him as some sort of proof. Lambert - signed him, along with other terrible players and stuck with him when it was leading to relegation. Sherwood - not even considered a manager by most villa fans. Garde - Had no chance to sign players and a team heading to be the worst in premier league history. Eric black - **** Eric black. RDM - well it's quite clear his views on central midfield at this club were proved to be completely wrong. Bruce - first opportunity replaces him and sells him . Yes he is going to the prem. So did gestede, does that mean he's a quality player? Sunderland just signed lescott, does that means he's better than Chester at the moment? Some serious straw clutching going on there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The thing that amazes me most is people's unwavering belief that the more times they say something the more likely it is that people with opposing opinions will come around to their POV. I hope he does go somewhere today or there's gonna be a few people having to come to terms with emotions similar to celebrating the award of a penalty before the goal has gone in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, VILLAMARV said: The thing that amazes me most is people's unwavering belief that the more times they say something the more likely it is that people with opposing opinions will come around to their POV. I hope he does go somewhere today or there's gonna be a few people having to come to terms with emotions similar to celebrating the award of a penalty before the goal has gone in I fully expect the deal not to go through because Westwood is after all the perennial disappointment. But the silver lining is we do at least have three new players ahead of him in the pecking order so if he does stay we won't be seeing too much of him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: Ok, how about this for faint praise; a bunch of fans who are frustrated by our lowly position hate him, yet five or six managers have used him continuously. Furthermore, a Premier League team (who are in an ok position) are buying him for a tidy sum. We remain in the Championship. Who's opinion do you listen to? The experienced football men who continually see what he can bring to a team or a group of bitter men who are ultimately displeased at their own teams demise and look for a common reason?! Much like the more reasoned posters on here, I'll applaud him if he comes back and will have only good things to say about his attitude AND performances - he has had ups and downs but largely his role will never be appreciated, especially in an underperforming team. He's got his limitations but he's going back to the Premier League for a reason. One more genuine question; we've bought a bunch of new midfielders for much lower values which I hope turn out to be big improvements to our midfield, yet no one from the Premier League has taken a chance on them so why would Ashley be seen as the safe bet/the better purchase for a Premier League team if he that bad? Good luck Ashley. You think it's a compliment that the shower of shite that have managed us since 2010 have continued to pick him in their teams in arguable the worst eras in Villa's history? You honestly think that's something to crow about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 A turd is a turd no matter who produced it, polishes it, desposes of it. Turd. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, avfc1982 said: You think it's a compliment that the shower of shite that have managed us since 2010 have continued to pick him in their teams in arguable the worst eras in Villa's history? You honestly think that's something to crow about? I didn't see it as crowing just someone pointing out facts as he saw them , i.e every manager we had picked him even if he was the best of an abysmal bunch , I don't recall him spitting gum , giving up or generally showing disdain for the club ... fine he's a limited player but that's not grounds for some of the abuse he seems to get , that I guess should be reserved for the owner who never backed those managers with funds to replace him thankfully we now seem to have one that is showing some backing .... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2017 So glad you're hopefully leaving, but I do wish you all the best. It's time to move on now. Thanks for trying, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I didn't see it as crowing just someone pointing out facts as he saw them , i.e every manager we had picked him even if he was the best of an abysmal bunch , I don't recall him spitting gum , giving up or generally showing disdain for the club ... fine he's a limited player but that's not grounds for some of the abuse he seems to get , that I guess should be reserved for the owner who never backed those managers with funds to replace him thankfully we now seem to have one that is showing some backing .... But it was suggested he must be a decent player because so many managers have picked him. I'm suggesting he's a damning indictment of the decline of the club that a player as shit as he has played so many games for a club as big as Villa. This is arguably the worst era in the club's history so I wouldn't be gloating that so many managers have picked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The pity for him over the abuse is so OTT. He's a multi millionaire professional player moving to the premier league for the second time in his career. I doubt he's even aware of comments on forums and twitter. Yes he got booed a couple of times, but nothing compared to what other players, managers and owners have endured. Yet there's still a group that has to leap to his defence. It's interesting how that group has transitioned along with the player. It's gone from - Westwood is great, if you don't get his role you don't get football. Westwood is good, he keeps us ticking over. Westwood will be good in the championship. Yeah, he should probably leave. Still what a nice guy though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 All quiet on the Westwood front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phumfeinz Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: All quiet on the Westwood front. They're trying to push the transfer forward but unfortunately it just keeps going sideways and then backwards. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I haven't watched SSN transfer deadline day countdown in many a year, but if this Westy deal is still not confirmed I will tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Yes he got booed a couple of times, but nothing compared to what other players, managers and owners have endured. Yet there's still a group that has to leap to his defence. a] Disagree - name another player that has been booed on to the pitch for us? Name another player who has had this much dislike thrust upon them for doing nothing unprofessional at all? b] This "leap to his defence" thing is so pathetic. "I hope he breaks his leg" - "That's wrong" - "OMG LEAPING TO DEFENCE!". **** off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2017 Good luck to him. Best for all parties if he moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: a] Disagree - name another player that has been booed on to the pitch for us? Name another player who has had this much dislike thrust upon them for doing nothing unprofessional at all? b] This "leap to his defence" thing is so pathetic. "I hope he breaks his leg" - "That's wrong" - "OMG LEAPING TO DEFENCE!". **** off. How many people have said they hope he breaks his leg? 1? 2? Yeah that's what everyone is defending him over. Booed onto the pitch? Not sure. Booed everytime they touched the ball? Lescott and Bacuna just last year. Then you have managers who have suffered much worse abuse from the fans on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: How many people have said they hope he breaks his leg? 1? 2? Yeah that's what everyone is defending him over. Booed onto the pitch? Not sure. Booed everytime they touched the ball? Lescott and Bacuna just last year. Then you have managers who have suffered much worse abuse from the fans on a consistent basis. One person said it. One time. Yet it still gets brought up constantly every single time a dispute arises. It cracks me up. Much like I hope Westwood's leg cracks. THAT'S A JOKE - I DON'T REALLY WANT HIM TO BREAK HIS LEG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2017 I too am shocked by villa fans defending a villa player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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