Isa Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He was rightly criticised last season and is being rightly lauded this. He wasn't being criticised - he was being written off as a waste of money and not good enough. Big difference in being criticised (informed criticism) and written off as no good (shit in other words). Ah, fair enough then. I personally was disappointed with him last season but never wrote him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSepulchrave Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Over a long distance - a run from inside his own half for example - Ramires would definitely have burned him. Over a shorter distance, I think Vlaar is probably the faster though - he doesn't take as long to get going. A red card would have been clearly the wrong decision. https://vine.co/v/MheDAumV2O6 yet on MOTD siad he would not catch Ramires The size difference between the two of them is quite stark actually - Vlaar looks huge next to Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He was rightly criticised last season and is being rightly lauded this. He wasn't being criticised - he was being written off as a waste of money and not good enough. Big difference in being criticised (informed criticism) and written off as no good (shit in other words). Ah, fair enough then. I personally was disappointed with him last season but never wrote him off. Mate I too was dissappointed in quite a few players but unlike some myself and many others (you included) wanted to reserve judgment which is what we should all do and not rush to conclusions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Over a long distance - a run from inside his own half for example - Ramires would definitely have burned him. Over a shorter distance, I think Vlaar is probably the faster though - he doesn't take as long to get going. A red card would have been clearly the wrong decision. https://vine.co/v/MheDAumV2O6 yet on MOTD siad he would not catch Ramires The size difference between the two of them is quite stark actually - Vlaar looks huge next to Hazard. That's because he is. Vlaar is 6'2 and Hazard is only 5'7. Vlaar's built like a brick shithouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted March 17, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 17, 2014 Over a long distance - a run from inside his own half for example - Ramires would definitely have burned him. Over a shorter distance, I think Vlaar is probably the faster though - he doesn't take as long to get going. A red card would have been clearly the wrong decision. https://vine.co/v/MheDAumV2O6 yet on MOTD siad he would not catch Ramires The size difference between the two of them is quite stark actually - Vlaar looks huge next to Hazard. That's because he is. Vlaar is 6'2 and Hazard is only 5'7. Vlaar's built like a brick shithouse. Brick shithouse? Hahaa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 17, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 17, 2014 I don't even think he was *that* bad last season. Ok he definitely wasn't great but it didn't help that he had to babysit Clark and/or Baker all the time. We still depended on him immensely last season. He was fine last season. He's undoubtedly improved this season, but he was still good last season. People just scapegoated him. We always have one, rightly or wrongly, and last season it was Vlaar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Just seen on wikipedia that his contract expires in 2015, getting him to sign a new one needs to be priority number one as soon as we're safe. He's so important to us it's frightening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Just seen on wikipedia that his contract expires in 2015, getting him to sign a new one needs to be priority number one as soon as we're safe. He's so important to us it's frightening! We're currently in talks to sort a new deal, taking a while though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Not going to see any contract extensions until we are safe or end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The club should have no hesitation in making him one of our highest earners. Certainly on par with Benteke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Should just shade Delph for POTY I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan_007 Posted March 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2014 I also think Vlaar is quite a poor centre half. he is very slow and his positional sense is awfil. Im amazed he has played for holland. I dont understand the fuss over him or why he has the armbamd. he is an inferior defender to james collins. Proud of how far we have come in this thread! :) Just Tonev and Kozak left! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The club should have no hesitation in making him one of our highest earners. Certainly on par with Benteke. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 About time we had a defender who made us feel confident! I'm still recovering from seeing Collins dart out of defence and miss everything, or just constantly foul on the edge of the box!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I actually think he is our best and most important player. Obviously the stats back that up and we all know what happens if Vlaar goes off or is injured. I know Benteke, as a striker, sticks out more to fans and the regular public alike but I seriously would not be surprised to see a big club come in for Vlaar this Summer. I said it before but his attributes would be a perfect fit for say Serie A, Juventus for example. Somebody mentioned Man United possibly coming in for him, I don't think that is too far fetched either to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Stop making exuses for this guy he is our weake link bigtime as he was last season !!!!.Should not be captain let alone starting 11.It's a shame Okore is injuried.Lambert needs to wake up to himself and drop him.Problem is that now there is not much to replace him either. Absolutely spot on. People keep making excuses for him having to "babysit" the likes of Clark and Baker, when I don't think he's as good as either of them. Terrible player. Agree to disagree. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 That's shocking how people can think that about Vlaar! He's been great this season and I think he did well last season all things considering his new surroundings and getting to grips with the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Ron is unimpeachable. I will never forget when he made a huge effort to return not fully fit against Sunderland. Hero. Edited March 18, 2014 by GENTLEMAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I had a disagreement with someone on this thread a while ago, who was questioning whether Vlaar was any better than Collins. I think it's now as clear as day that Vlaar is better than him. I thought the fact it was even questioned was ridiculous. I guess some of us are just better at judging a players ability/ potential than others.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ron is unimpeachable. I will never forget when he made a huge effort to return not fully fit against Sunderland. Hero. I agree, even though I'm not quite sure what unimpeachable means. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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