Super-Villan Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Will please stop banging on about the 'stats' at Wigan, a side which he has done very very well to even keep in the Premiership. Bruce had momentum on his side (see Norwich and Swansea this season) and a much more expensive squad. Martinez has done great with what he's had there, much much better than Bruce did relatively speaking, all while getting the team to play a decent brand of attacking football. That's why Liverpool flew him out to Miami and why Steve Bruce is sat on his arse hoping for a phone call from Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 There is no doubt Martinez has a certain amount of potential, but at this moment in time he's nothing to get excited about and about 5th or 6th in my gettable list never mind 1st which someone said. Whoever the new manager is, he's going to be an upgrade of the last monstrosity anyway, so I will look forward to the new season anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 Whelan has just said Martinez is only good enough for Barcelona and would be perfect to lead a rag tag of survivors searching for Earth if their home planet was destroyed by Cylons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Why the hell would Marinez have a pc at Wigan to say he is taking the Liverpool job? It makes no sense, surely all that would be done by at Liverpool at Liverpool if he was to be their manager? LeBron James had an entire televised special in Cleveland to announce he was going to play for Miami.... LeBron James is "the new Michael Jordan" sic, or the Lionel Messi of Basketball. The biggest name in the NBA. Roberto Martinez is at the most a towel-boy in the world of football, not sure he merits his own televised special or PC for that matter... Now if Messi were to move im sure the media cover would beat anything we've ever seen in football You miss the point of what I was saying. I'm not saying that Martinez deserves the attention, I'm saying that James had the PC in Cleveland even though he was leaving his hometown for Miami. So just because Martinez is having his press conference at Wigan doesn't mean he's staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 People looking at his stats and saying he is shite need to use their imagination a little bit. Steve bruce has better stats, who would you rather have? I`m sure big sams stats are great, those sort of managers live for good stats, And It shows in the way their teams play. It`s about his football philosiphy, the general idea being if he had better resources to buy a better standard of player he would be produce a good footballing team for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT3AVFC Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 It`s about his football philosiphy, the general idea being if he had better resources to buy a better standard of player he would be produce a good footballing team for us. Seem to recall something similar being said about McLeish last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 It`s about his football philosiphy, the general idea being if he had better resources to buy a better standard of player he would be produce a good footballing team for us. Seem to recall something similar being said about McLeish last year! # I dont think so some how! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 People looking at his stats and saying he is shite need to use their imagination a little bit. Steve bruce has better stats, who would you rather have? I`m sure big sams stats are great, those sort of managers live for good stats, And It shows in the way their teams play. It`s about his football philosiphy, the general idea being if he had better resources to buy a better standard of player he would be produce a good footballing team for us. OK, stuff the "philosophy" (think we had a dose of that from Foolier). I'll take the results, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Agree on this, I will sleep much easier once Martinez either is confirmed for the dippers or says he's staying put with Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Will please stop banging on about the 'stats' at Wigan, a side which he has done very very well to even keep in the Premiership. Bruce had momentum on his side (see Norwich and Swansea this season) and a much more expensive squad. Martinez has done great with what he's had there, much much better than Bruce did relatively speaking, all while getting the team to play a decent brand of attacking football. That's why Liverpool flew him out to Miami and why Steve Bruce is sat on his arse hoping for a phone call from Wolves. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Didn't see this "decent brand of attacking football" in the 2 live games against us last year Indeed they failed to score in both games against our woeful defence Says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Didn't see this "decent brand of attacking football" in the 2 live games against us last year Indeed they failed to score in both games against our woeful defence Says it all What about beating Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle etc at the end of the season? Regardless if he is our new manager will you support him CI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Oh for sure, if he comes in he gets my support I just don't think he's as good as people make out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Why the hell would Marinez have a pc at Wigan to say he is taking the Liverpool job? It makes no sense, surely all that would be done by at Liverpool at Liverpool if he was to be their manager? LeBron James had an entire televised special in Cleveland to announce he was going to play for Miami.... LeBron James is "the new Michael Jordan" sic, or the Lionel Messi of Basketball. The biggest name in the NBA. Roberto Martinez is at the most a towel-boy in the world of football, not sure he merits his own televised special or PC for that matter... Now if Messi were to move im sure the media cover would beat anything we've ever seen in football You miss the point of what I was saying. I'm not saying that Martinez deserves the attention, I'm saying that James had the PC in Cleveland even though he was leaving his hometown for Miami. So just because Martinez is having his press conference at Wigan doesn't mean he's staying. Ah, sorry. Yes i think your quite right. A PC in Wigan doesn't rule out that he's leaving. It could just as easily mean he want's to explain his decision to the Wigan fans at their home turf as a sign of respect to them. Or then again he might be staying, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Oh for sure, if he comes in he gets my support I just don't think he's as good as people make out this is where I am as well. I like what he attempts to do, im concerned if he tried to take our current squad and make them play football, he might get us relegated. They talk a lot about how little money there is at wigan and how well hes done yet theyve been getting sky money for 7 seasons and have just been eclipsed by swansea and norwich with a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 They talk a lot about how little money there is at wigan and how well hes done yet theyve been getting sky money for 7 seasons and have just been eclipsed by swansea and norwich with a lot less. So did quite a few teams. They had fantastic seasons. And getting Sky money doesn't mean it's going into the team.. their record signing is Ali Al Habsi for 4m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 People looking at his stats and saying he is shite need to use their imagination a little bit. Steve bruce has better stats, who would you rather have? I`m sure big sams stats are great, those sort of managers live for good stats, And It shows in the way their teams play. It`s about his football philosiphy, the general idea being if he had better resources to buy a better standard of player he would be produce a good footballing team for us. OK, stuff the "philosophy" (think we had a dose of that from Foolier). I'll take the results, please. except results built on no substance don't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Oh for sure, if he comes in he gets my support I just don't think he's as good as people make out I have a similar suspicion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffa Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Theres no doubt Martinez worked a minor miricle for those last 9 games of the season, and Whelan has been dining out on it ever since! But he's played that card now, he had the bollocks to instruct his team to knock it about and play a bit, have a go at them, all the big teams got taken by surprise, and well done to him too. But he's played that card now and I reckon that if he was still to stay at Wigan he would struggle again next season. Anyway I guess we will find out if he can hack it with a bigger club sooner enough. I like him, but he turned us down once so no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Daily Mail are adamant he was lined up for us - but may have marked his card - by having talks with pool - and now coming grovelling back to us. Any manager is a risk - so if he came it worked it would be great - also it we be nice to see Randy and Faulkner 'get their man' - whatever you think of martinez he isn't the easy or cheap option - and I would take heart from the fact that Randy has taken the time and money to get who he feels is the best man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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