rodders0223 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Couldn't even arsed to play for England. Anyone who knows Gabby knows full well he has never been in love with the game, yet alone with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post This Could Be Rotterdam Posted April 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2016 Wilkins - 'Gabby you arent fit enough and we are going to put a plan in place to sort it out' Gabby - 'Nah boss, I'll sort it out myself honest' Wilkins - 'Alright, see you later then' If that is the extent to which sherwood and wilkins ''managed'' our players, allowing them to 'sort their own fitness out' then its no surprise they all have the mentality they do. If i managed my staff like that theyd be laughing! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, ThisCouldBeRotterdam said: Wilkins - 'Gabby you arent fit enough and we are going to put a plan in place to sort it out' Gabby - 'Nah boss, I'll sort it out myself honest' Wilkins - 'Alright, see you later then' If that is the extent to which sherwood and wilkins ''managed'' our players, allowing them to 'sort their own fitness out' then its no surprise they all have the mentality they do. If i managed my staff like that theyd be laughing! Not only that, he was confrontational about it and backed Wilkins down. It really is no wonder the players are getting away with half arsing everything. A joke of a club from top to bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Quote The straw that broke the camel's back was when a verbal dispute with Agbonlahor almost escalated into a physical confrontation. It is understood the Villa stalwart was discussing tactics with manager Paul Lambert when Keane interrupted. Agbonlahor didn't take too kindly to Keane's interjection and responded, Excuse me, but I’m talking to the boss! The two men then became involved in a heated altercation and had to be separated from each other. Lambert held a meeting with Keane later that day when they decided on the assistant manager's early resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post praisedmambo Posted April 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2016 5 hours ago, R.Bear said: I'm not defending him at all. He's a disgrace to himself. However I'm trying to explain that despite being a footballer, he is still susceptible to the same problems any of us can have and what he earns is irrelevant which is what started this back and forth. We've also had many lazy wasters here before its just that time we're relegate so the fans are angry and are directing it at anything they can. He earns what he earns because he is a professional sportsman. Sportsmen need to be fit: to justify his wage he needs to be able to perform. If he lets himself go the way he has, he is taking the piss. He's not an individual sportsman either. It's not as if he's a golfer or a tennis player where he's only letting himself down. He's letting the club down—the club who pay his wages—and also the supporters. His wages are definitely relevant. He's meant to be a top-level sportsman, and he can't even look after himself. He is also the captain of the club. Gabby is a **** word removed. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2016 3 hours ago, ThisCouldBeRotterdam said: Wilkins - 'Gabby you arent fit enough and we are going to put a plan in place to sort it out' Gabby - 'Nah boss, I'll sort it out myself honest' Wilkins - 'Alright, see you later then' If that is the extent to which sherwood and wilkins ''managed'' our players, allowing them to 'sort their own fitness out' then its no surprise they all have the mentality they do. If i managed my staff like that theyd be laughing! If reports about our pre season fitness training are true, then gabby probably wouldn't have been much better off following that regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 at this point does it really matter what manager or coach tells gabby what to do, hes seen that many managers and coaches come and go in this club he clearly has no more regard or respect for any of them, hes just going to do what he wants and act the billy big bollox, he has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 3 hours ago, praisedmambo said: He's letting the club down—the club who pay his wages—and also the supporters. Maybe but they're still paying him so why would he give a shit? It doesnt matter if he bangs a hat-trick or sits on the bench for 90 minutes, he still get paid the same. There are millions of examples of players not giving a shit. The only difference here is that Gabby is supposedly "one of us". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, R.Bear said: Maybe but they're still paying him so why would he give a shit? It doesnt matter if he bangs a hat-trick or sits on the bench for 90 minutes, he still get paid the same. There are millions of examples of players not giving a shit. The only difference here is that Gabby is supposedly "one of us". Show me millions of examples of players getting suspended twice in a few weeks whilst simultaneously being deemed not fit enough to do their job and we'll all concede the point. There is a cavernous difference between a player not giving a shit, and a player not giving a shit so much that they literally cannot do their job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Show me millions of examples of players getting suspended twice in a few weeks whilst simultaneously being deemed not fit enough to do their job and we'll all concede the point. There is a cavernous difference between a player not giving a shit, and a player not giving a shit so much that they literally cannot do their job. it's the difference between N'Zogbia and Gabby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 8 hours ago, rodders0223 said: The straw that broke the camel's back was when a verbal dispute with Agbonlahor almost escalated into a physical confrontation. It is understood the Villa stalwart was discussing tactics with manager Paul Lambert when Keane interrupted. Agbonlahor didn't take too kindly to Keane's interjection and responded, Excuse me, but I’m talking to the boss! The two men then became involved in a heated altercation and had to be separated from each other. Lambert held a meeting with Keane later that day when they decided on the assistant manager's early resignation. If true thats weak by Lambert, also a pity as I think Keane would have took no shit and done some damage to Gabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Show me millions of examples of players getting suspended twice in a few weeks whilst simultaneously being deemed not fit enough to do their job and we'll all concede the point. There is a cavernous difference between a player not giving a shit, and a player not giving a shit so much that they literally cannot do their job. I didn't say there were millions of examples of that. Either way Gabby smoked a pipe and took some NOS? Who **** cares? I come back to the same point, if he was in form people would laugh it off, much like Ashley Young getting his cock out on webcam. I realise they are different things but people found that hilarious. Winning takes care of everything as Tiger Woods says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I would accuse R.Bear of being Gabby, but I don't believe he could spell half of those words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Personally I couldn't give a flying toss if he went on a coke binge and was still able to perform week in and week out. It's the fact of the matter that he's been deemed incapable of doing his job in the mix that is a big warning flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 1 hour ago, R.Bear said: I didn't say there were millions of examples of that. Either way Gabby smoked a pipe and took some NOS? Who **** cares? I come back to the same point, if he was in form people would laugh it off, much like Ashley Young getting his cock out on webcam. I realise they are different things but people found that hilarious. Winning takes care of everything as Tiger Woods says. In isolation, smoking NOS and having a few beers is fine. If we were doing well, or even just ok, this would be forgiven quickly. The situation is not that though and things need to be discussed in their historical context. It's like that Good Idea Bad Idea thing from animaniacs. Good idea: Setting off fireworks on New Years Eve. Bad idea: Setting off fireworks during a funeral on New Years Eve. It is totally inappropriate for Gabby to be pictured on a bender so soon after relegation, so soon after already being suspended by the club for going on a similar bender, so soon after being told he needs footballer fat camp, and in the context of all of the above explaining his inability to do his job this season despite the fact he gets paid 60k a week regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 The thing is, N'Zogbia gives precisely 0 shits but hes fit to play. He'd be rusty so even less effective (hard I know) and could maybe only last a hour but that's more than being completely incapable of playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted April 22, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, R.Bear said: I didn't say there were millions of examples of that. Either way Gabby smoked a pipe and took some NOS? Who **** cares? I come back to the same point, if he was in form people would laugh it off, much like Ashley Young getting his cock out on webcam. I realise they are different things but people found that hilarious. Winning takes care of everything as Tiger Woods says. But that is what Gabby is doing. So if there aren't millions examples of that then your point is moot. We all agree if he was in form we'd laugh it off. BUT HE ISN'T! He's so out of form he's been deemed physically unable to play the game. Yet he's STILL going out on the lash. The fact it was the night we got relegated is just a bit of salt in an already very deep wound. A combination of all that is what people are annoyed about. How can you not see that? Edited April 22, 2016 by Stevo985 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 So...we have Gabby, that cant play,N,Zombie that wont play and the rest just show up on a saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney_avfc Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Tina Burgess, Gabby Agbonlahor's mum The mum of Aston Villa’s Gabby Agbonlahor opened her heart about his alleged drink and laughing gas binge, saying “I always knew he’d go off the rails - but I still love him.” Tina Burgess BACKED the club for suspending her estranged son, 29, after his reported antics in a London hotel last Saturday, the day his side was relegated. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/gabby-agbonlahors-mum-always-knew-11228868 Full story ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Quote Tina, 55, also revealed how she recently received life saving brain - and still hopes for a reconciliation with the former England international. LOL - I bet Gabby could do with life-saving brain too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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