Stevo985 Posted August 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2015 If it went over the wall then it was positioned correctly. As was Guzan. He covered the side that the wall didn't. You could argue he didn't get across quick enough, but I think that would be very harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think it's a bit much to say VT has turned. The palace goal criticism was justified and its only one or two who have been crazy enough to blame him for the 2nd goal. After watching MOTD the free kick was better than I first thought but I still don't think the wall was great. If the palace goal criticism was justified why has he not been criticised for playing the ball short yesterday to a player under pressure? You know, the one we went straight down the other end and scored from? No criticism for that? At first viewing I did think the wall was a bit off, so I can understand the match day reactions, but having seen it again it looks pretty bang on to me, and there was obviously nothing he could do with the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) On Jordan Amavi… I really like him. I like him even though he made a mistake last week. He will learn from them and get better. Sherwood on OS Not Guzan's fault then, according to the BOSS. Edited August 30, 2015 by momo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think it's a bit much to say VT has turned. The palace goal criticism was justified and its only one or two who have been crazy enough to blame him for the 2nd goal. After watching MOTD the free kick was better than I first thought but I still don't think the wall was great.If the palace goal criticism was justified why has he not been criticised for playing the ball short yesterday to a player under pressure? You know, the one we went straight down the other end and scored from? No criticism for that? At first viewing I did think the wall was a bit off, so I can understand the match day reactions, but having seen it again it looks pretty bang on to me, and there was obviously nothing he could do with the 2nd Did he roll it out in the exact same situation? After just defending a corner, with a few mins left, away from home, with their best defender the one applying the pressure to the defender the ball was being played to? Surely the fact that independent experienced pundits have criticised it shows its not some sort of hate on Guzan. If it went over the wall then it was positioned correctly. As was Guzan. He covered the side that the wall didn't. You could argue he didn't get across quick enough, but I think that would be very harsh. His positioning was fine. Did it go over? It didn't look like it from my view at the game and I didn't think the MOTD replays showed it that clearly. I'd like to see a behind goal view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 On Jordan Amavi… I really like him. I like him even though he made a mistake last week. He will learn from them and get better. Sherwood on OS Not Guzan's fault then, according to the BOSS. Tim doesn't say it was not Guzan's fault in the article linked above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 If it went over the wall then it was positioned correctly. As was Guzan. He covered the side that the wall didn't. You could argue he didn't get across quick enough, but I think that would be very harsh. It would also take credit away from M'Vila, who struck it brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 31, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think it's a bit much to say VT has turned. The palace goal criticism was justified and its only one or two who have been crazy enough to blame him for the 2nd goal. After watching MOTD the free kick was better than I first thought but I still don't think the wall was great. If the palace goal criticism was justified why has he not been criticised for playing the ball short yesterday to a player under pressure? You know, the one we went straight down the other end and scored from? No criticism for that? At first viewing I did think the wall was a bit off, so I can understand the match day reactions, but having seen it again it looks pretty bang on to me, and there was obviously nothing he could do with the 2nd Did he roll it out in the exact same situation? After just defending a corner, with a few mins left, away from home, with their best defender the one applying the pressure to the defender the ball was being played to? Surely the fact that independent experienced pundits have criticised it shows its not some sort of hate on Guzan. If it went over the wall then it was positioned correctly. As was Guzan. He covered the side that the wall didn't. You could argue he didn't get across quick enough, but I think that would be very harsh. His positioning was fine. Did it go over? It didn't look like it from my view at the game and I didn't think the MOTD replays showed it that clearly. I'd like to see a behind goal view. I've only seen it once but I thought it went over the wall. If it went round the wall then there's a discussion to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Guzan over in the us according to his twitter and facebook accounts. Cannot see him leaving or being replaced this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think it's a bit much to say VT has turned. The palace goal criticism was justified and its only one or two who have been crazy enough to blame him for the 2nd goal. After watching MOTD the free kick was better than I first thought but I still don't think the wall was great.If the palace goal criticism was justified why has he not been criticised for playing the ball short yesterday to a player under pressure? You know, the one we went straight down the other end and scored from? No criticism for that? At first viewing I did think the wall was a bit off, so I can understand the match day reactions, but having seen it again it looks pretty bang on to me, and there was obviously nothing he could do with the 2nd Did he roll it out in the exact same situation? After just defending a corner, with a few mins left, away from home, with their best defender the one applying the pressure to the defender the ball was being played to? Surely the fact that independent experienced pundits have criticised it shows its not some sort of hate on Guzan.If it went over the wall then it was positioned correctly. As was Guzan. He covered the side that the wall didn't. You could argue he didn't get across quick enough, but I think that would be very harsh. His positioning was fine. Did it go over? It didn't look like it from my view at the game and I didn't think the MOTD replays showed it that clearly. I'd like to see a behind goal view. Well the "exact same situation" would be very unlikely to happen again, however it was a few mins from half time, 1-1 Sunderland were pressing high up the pitch and he played it out to a player under some pressure, so it's not a completely different situation. The main difference being the player he passed to didn't lose the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 But the situation was a main part of the criticism. No one is saying rolling it to a player is always the wrong choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 31, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2015 Somebody actually blamed Guzan for the second goal too In the match thread? Yeah I noticed that as well. Something along the lines of "Can Guzan save anything?!" No in this thread actually. Crazy. He's going to get blamed for everything now. Like I said before. VT has turned. I don't think he'll ever win it back. I can't seem to be able to source a Viper for my American road trip in October. Stupid Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Looks like it curls around the wall to me, if it did go over it was very close which makes the fact the wall didn't jump a little disappointing. Guzan not to blame in any case for me, great freekick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieZ Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Inb4 he should have parried out of danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieZ Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Inb4 he should have parried out of dangerRight? He should have scorpion kicked it to Bobby Wood at the halfway line for a breakaway opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongRiddims Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Braaaaad Guuuuuuzaaaan coming up huuuuuuuge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I reckon that striker had about 2 more kicks at the ball before the Goose bitch slapped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 cant be the only person that thinks it should be a penalty for pushing the striker away 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 cant be the only person that thinks it should be a penalty for pushing the striker awayHad the whistle gone already maybe? Hard to tell from that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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