TrentVilla Posted September 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2015 I agree that Guzan made a mistake for the 3rd goal (he should either come and claim earlier, or stay on his line) but how on Earth does the centre of defence get outdone by a hopeful punt to the shortest guy on the pitch?!Clark wasn't there, so the next scapegoat in line is Guzan, naturally.Yeah that's it... that or the fact he made an utter balls up and cost us a goal again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I agree that Guzan made a mistake for the 3rd goal (he should either come and claim earlier, or stay on his line) but how on Earth does the centre of defence get outdone by a hopeful punt to the shortest guy on the pitch?!Clark wasn't there, so the next scapegoat in line is Guzan, naturally. Scapegoat? Pardon? Watch it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Guzan has been average to poor for a while, and it started before Sherwood got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 SO????? It shouldn't even have reached Guzan. Lescott and Richards should have dealt with the ball. They got bullied by a player one fourth their size. Clark would have done better than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I agree that Guzan made a mistake for the 3rd goal (he should either come and claim earlier, or stay on his line) but how on Earth does the centre of defence get outdone by a hopeful punt to the shortest guy on the pitch?!Clark wasn't there, so the next scapegoat in line is Guzan, naturally. Yeah that's it... that or the fact he made an utter balls up and cost us a goal again.Meh, 50/50 again for me between Guzan and the central defence.That ball just shouldn't make it to Dyer, irrespective of Guzan's indecision/poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 No, I can't agree. When the goalkeeper comes for the ball, off his line, charging in, he has to make it. You're always going to be able to find an error somewhere in the passage of play before a goal, but his total misjudgment of that cross is a Goalkeeping 101 error. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2015 SO????? It shouldn't even have reached Guzan. Lescott and Richards should have dealt with the ball. They got bullied by a player one fourth their size. Clark would have done better than those two.Yeah sure he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 SO????? It shouldn't even have reached Guzan. Lescott and Richards should have dealt with the ball. They got bullied by a player one fourth their size. Clark would have done better than those two. Yeah sure he would. Lescott and Richards. The new chuckle brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2015 SO????? It shouldn't even have reached Guzan. Lescott and Richards should have dealt with the ball. They got bullied by a player one fourth their size. Clark would have done better than those two. Yeah sure he would. Lescott and Richards. The new chuckle brothers. Glad to see you've accept Clark is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have a strange feeling he'd like to retire now. He's obviously not enjoying himself at the moment, and things are going very poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Been a big defender of Guzan but that's been mainly due to him still being decent coming for crosses off his line as his general shot stopping isn't what it once was.Would be amazed if we don't sign a keeper of some decent pedigree in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Even if Dyer had outjumped the defenders, they had put enough pressure on him for his header to be weak. There was absolutely no need for Guzan to go for that ball-It was either going to be won by a defender or headed tamely towards goal 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 SO????? It shouldn't even have reached Guzan. Lescott and Richards should have dealt with the ball. They got bullied by a player one fourth their size. Clark would have done better than those two. Yeah sure he would. Lescott and Richards. The new chuckle brothers. Glad to see you've accept Clark is shit. I would never say that about a player at Villa, especially a player who gives his all when playing. Don't understand why you hate him. I was not impressed by Lescott at all. The first goal came from a corner. That corner was given because Lescott couldn't tackle properly. Now, tell me how shit Lescott is, because I am sure you would not have missed the opportunity if it was Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2015 SO????? It shouldn't even have reached Guzan. Lescott and Richards should have dealt with the ball. They got bullied by a player one fourth their size. Clark would have done better than those two. Yeah sure he would. Lescott and Richards. The new chuckle brothers. Glad to see you've accept Clark is shit. I would never say that about a player at Villa, especially a player who gives his all when playing. Don't understand why you hate him. I was not impressed by Lescott at all. The first goal came from a corner. That corner was given because Lescott couldn't tackle properly. Now, tell me how shit Lescott is, because I am sure you would not have missed the opportunity if it was Clark. I don't hate him, I just don't think he is very good at his job. I totally agree Lescott was at fault for the first no argument from me there. If he does that time after time like Clark does I will view him exactly the same way but not after one mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Even if Dyer had outjumped the defenders, they had put enough pressure on him for his header to be weak. There was absolutely no need for Guzan to go for that ball-It was either going to be won by a defender or headed tamely towards goalAgree with this. Split second decision I think - he saw the defence weren't making it and went for the ball, but it was too late as the ball was making it to Dyer. Either come earlier or don't come at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You would expect central defenders to win that battle for the third goal but Guzan is the ultimate culprit because he's the last man between player and goal. Why did he end up double punching the smallest player on the pitch whilst the ball ends up in the net? If he comes out with his fists raised he easily clears that ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 What on earth was he doing for their third? Did he forget he was allowed to use his hands?Most of us knew, as did Sheridan, that he is no longer good enough. If we were unable to bring in a number 1 keeper, I am afraid we let the wrong keeper go. Should have kept Given, made Guzan number 2, and not brought in Bunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 & to cap it all, he didn't even get sent off, thus rendering him unavailable for the next 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Watched the goal again, this is more Guzan's fault the more I look at it to be honest. Shouldn't get there (Richards and Hutton, what are you doing?) but Dyer is never getting enough on that to power it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapbranny Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 The fact that Guzan comes out means he's given a call. Keepers make a and you get out of his way. Completely missed the ball. Should have claimed it. Too many mistakes from him now and appears to be getting much worse.. New Keeper is a priority for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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