Things you often Wonder

[choffer]

I used to work with a huge woman (they had to take the arm rests off her office chair) who used to sigh every day as she went to the fridge to get her lunch which was normally two small tomatoes and a couple of lettuce leaves. 

"I don't know why I never lose any weight" she'd say as she nibbled on the greenery.

Once finished, she'd announce that was going for a walk to burn off the calories. Three minutes later she'd be in the chippy round the corner - double cod and chips.

She was convinced none of us knew.

 

[Stevo985]

22 hours ago, villa4europe said:

Slimming biscuits - I went to a food retail convention thing 14 years ago now I think when I worked for cookie company and our stand was opposite what I'd consider to be the leading brand in reduced fat products, was chatting to them about a reduced fat cookie 

"what you do is replace the fat with liquid sugar" 

had probably a 30 minute chat with him, let's just say I've never bothered with any less fat or less sugar product ever again, a huge percentage of it was a basically a con, replacing shit with shit

"low fat" is nonsense.

I cringe when I hear women in the office (I'm not being sexist, it's only the women I hear talking about it where I sit) talk about the food they're eating being healthy because it has low fat.

 

Low fat makes almost no difference. It's true that fat contains more calories that protein and carbs, so something with high fat is PROBABLY going to be high in calories.
But that doesn't mean low fat = low calories. 

You could eat zero fat and still eat thousands of calories and put on weight.

Similarly you could probably eat pure fat and still lose weight (there would obviously be other health implications!)

[mjmooney]

37 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

"low fat" is nonsense.

I cringe when I hear women in the office (I'm not being sexist, it's only the women I hear talking about it where I sit) talk about the food they're eating being healthy because it has low fat.

 

Low fat makes almost no difference. It's true that fat contains more calories that protein and carbs, so something with high fat is PROBABLY going to be high in calories.
But that doesn't mean low fat = low calories. 

You could eat zero fat and still eat thousands of calories and put on weight.

Similarly you could probably eat pure fat and still lose weight (there would obviously be other health implications!)

I used to work with a woman who was vegan and still ended up overweight - she basically ate loads of chips and sugary stuff. 

To her credit, she did sort it out - joined a running club (became a pretty good racer) and modified the diet - and won a 'slimmer of the year' award. 

She's now gone back to a carnivore diet and put a bit of weight on, but nothing too drastic. 

[Stevo985]

1 hour ago, mjmooney said:

I used to work with a woman who was vegan and still ended up overweight - she basically ate loads of chips and sugary stuff. 

To her credit, she did sort it out - joined a running club (became a pretty good racer) and modified the diet - and won a 'slimmer of the year' award. 

She's now gone back to a carnivore diet and put a bit of weight on, but nothing too drastic. 

Education is key.

I'm convinced that if more emphasis was put on teaching kids about nutrition then obesity would fall.

The problem is people don't know how bad certain foods are, and how to correctly address a weight problem.

[mjmooney]

17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Education is key.

I'm convinced that if more emphasis was put on teaching kids about nutrition then obesity would fall.

The problem is people don't know how bad certain foods are, and how to correctly address a weight problem.

Not sure that's enough - junk food and sugar is incredibly addictive. Knowing it's bad for you doesn't stop the cravings. 

I speak as a well-educated lover of fried food, cakes and chocolate, who finds it very difficult to like fruit and green veg. 

[choffer]

I have to agree with the Mooney. As a fully paid up member of the overweight alliance who considers himself relatively intelligent, it's not education that's my problem.

Generally it's a combination of inactivity and cream buns.

[sharkyvilla]

I generally just follow the red, yellow and green thing you get on supermarket packaging nowadays.  It's surprising which foods are better for you than I thought, and which ones are worse, assuming they're accurate.

[Stevo985]

1 hour ago, mjmooney said:

Not sure that's enough - junk food and sugar is incredibly addictive. Knowing it's bad for you doesn't stop the cravings. 

I speak as a well-educated lover of fried food, cakes and chocolate, who finds it very difficult to like fruit and green veg. 

 

24 minutes ago, choffer said:

I have to agree with the Mooney. As a fully paid up member of the overweight alliance who considers himself relatively intelligent, it's not education that's my problem.

Generally it's a combination of inactivity and cream buns.

Sorry, I should be clearer. My post wasn't meant to come across as "well educated people aren't fat". That's not what I meant at all.

What I meant was education SPECIFICALLY about nutrition. Effects of fat, sugar, calories. The bad foods, how to lose weight, what to look for when you're buying food etc etc.

I have been overweight, and regularly put on more weight than I should, so I'm not commenting on general intelligence.

 

More education on this issue wouldn't be enough to cure obesity, but I'm sure it would make a difference. So many people have genuinely no idea about how to eat healthily. You only have to watch an episode of "Secret Eaters" to realise how painfully naive people are on the issue.

[choffer]

11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Sorry, I should be clearer. My post wasn't meant to come across as "well educated people aren't fat". That's not what I meant at all.

I knew what you meant. Cream Buns was the only point I was really trying to make

 

[mjmooney]

Yeah, I knew what you meant, too. I didn't mean my educational qualifications, I meant that I'm well informed about health and nutrition. 

But that knowledge is not enough to make me eat fewer biscuits and more spinach. 

[Wainy316]

Nothing wrong with fats it's the sat fats you need to avoid.

[Rodders]

It does require quite an effort particularly in the age of instant everything. I started running at the beginning of the year having gained a bit more weight than I realised. Whilst I've now enjoyed running regularly since then, my weight hasn't gone down so much as my appetite has **** shot up Having the discipline to eat minimally  after a 6 mile run is just not happening.  It worked for a while, think I lost about a stone and half in the first few months, but have put a stone back on since then, despite running more.

Definitely more awareness and information on what "low fat" actually means would help. And what are good foods etc. My partner who is fairly inactive, considers pasta a healthy option because otherwise she'd eat chips, but then doesn't do much exercise at all :/

[dAVe80]

I've been wondering (as there normally is for everything), if a porn has been made about the EDL? I've been thinking I could make a gay one, mainly due to the fact I want to call the main character Tommy Knobinyourson.

[Mandy Lifeboats]

Its very quiet at work and we're having a rambling conversation to fill the time. 

At one stage prescription medicines were all dispenses in similar looking brown bottles.  Each had a "childproof" lock which made a terrific clicking noise when turned and was virtually impossible for anyone to remove unless you were a 5 year old toddler. 

But  prescription medicines are now dispensed in foil packets and cardboard boxes.

Drug companies are using packaging that makes it easier for children to get at the Smarties and overdose on mom's anti-depressants.    

Are there any other commercial products that have been purposefully altered to make them less safe? 

Its akin to a car manufacturer abolishing airbags or making headlights less effective. 

[Xann]

4 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

Are there any other commercial products that have been purposefully altered to make them less safe?

Special Brew.

[BOF]

4 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

Are there any other commercial products that have been purposefully altered to make them less safe?

Lucozade.

[HanoiVillan]

The NHS say that aspartame is safe (though obviously you shouldn't drink vast quantities of Lucozade, for obvious reasons): http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/the-truth-about-aspartame.aspx

'Aspartame has been extremely controversial since its approval for use by several European countries in the 1980s. A 1996 report suggested a link between aspartame and an increase in the number of diagnosed brain tumours. However, the study had very little scientific basis and later studies showed that aspartame was in fact safe to consume.

The European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences published several long-term studies in 2006 and 2007 linking the consumption of aspartame with an increase in cancers – namely lymphomas and leukaemias – in rats.

Following these studies, the US National Cancer Institute conducted a study of nearly half a million people, comparing those who consumed drinks containing aspartame with those who did not. Results of the 2006 study found aspartame did not increase the risk of leukaemia, lymphoma or brain cancer.

In 2013 the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) conducted a comprehensive review of the evidence and concluded that aspartame was safe for human consumption, including pregnant women and children.'

[Chindie]

Aspartame has been proven to be safe again and again and again.

The 'science' behind the studies that 'showed' it's dangerous is absolutely dreadful, as I've said numerous times here. They gave rats obscene amounts of the stuff, levels a human could not reasonably consume, and then let them die naturally, and drew their conclusions. Which is so stupid I'm astonished anyone thinks it's valid.

It's utter scaremongering nonsense. 

[wazzap24]

Why is Siri so awful in comparison to the Google version? 

 

[wazzap24]

On 04/08/2017 at 12:47, Mandy Lifeboats said:

Its very quiet at work and we're having a rambling conversation to fill the time. 

At one stage prescription medicines were all dispenses in similar looking brown bottles.  Each had a "childproof" lock which made a terrific clicking noise when turned and was virtually impossible for anyone to remove unless you were a 5 year old toddler. 

But  prescription medicines are now dispensed in foil packets and cardboard boxes.

Drug companies are using packaging that makes it easier for children to get at the Smarties and overdose on mom's anti-depressants.    

Are there any other commercial products that have been purposefully altered to make them less safe? 

Its akin to a car manufacturer abolishing airbags or making headlights less effective. 

Life pro tip. 

I find, the best way to prevent your kids from taking prescription medicines is......

Don't leave them anywhere they can find them!