choffer Posted May 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2017 Which is the more futile thread? The Steve Bruce or the latest Bollitics one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Why do all American sports commentators have the same voice? It's really weird and annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 when did groups become bands? When I was growing up every band was called a group. Now you never hear the word. It's just a band now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 23, 2017 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, colhint said: when did groups become bands? When I was growing up every band was called a group. Now you never hear the word. It's just a band now About 1968, as I recall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 The Beatles: Were just a band.Led Zepplin: Just a band.The Beach Boys: Just a band.The Sex Pistols: Just a band.The Clash: Just a band.Crass: Just a band.Minor Threat: Just a band.The Cure: Were just a band.The Smiths: Just a band.Nirvana: Just a band.The Pixies: Just a band.Oasis: Just a band.Radiohead: Just a band.Bloc Party: Just a band.The Arctic Monkeys: Just a band.The next big thing... Just a band.Thou shalt not make repetitive generic music, thou shalt not make repetitive generic music, thou shalt not make repetitive generic music, thou shalt not make repetitive generic music. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2017 Great song. Did you know Scroobius Pip was in Taboo? You do now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 A band play instruments and a group don't is my (possibly incorrect) way of categorising it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Same here but then "boy band" doesn't fit that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 17 hours ago, colhint said: when did groups become bands? When I was growing up every band was called a group. Now you never hear the word. It's just a band now My theory - the theory that I have, is that group was a new coinage to differentiate between the jazz and big bands of the baby-boomer parents' generation. Then when the generational division had been established the term band was reintroduced. "They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band It ain't what they call rock and roll" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 24, 2017 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: My theory - the theory that I have, is that group was a new coinage to differentiate between the jazz and big bands of the baby-boomer parents' generation. Then when the generational division had been established the term band was reintroduced. "They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band It ain't what they call rock and roll" Definitely this. In the early 60s (beat boom era), old folks listened to bands - Acker Bilk and his Paramount Jazz Band, The Billy Cotton Band Show, etc. So young people had 'beat groups'. These tended to be guys in suits, playing three minute pop singles. Come 1966 (blues boom), 1967 (psychedelia), 1968 (progessive), 'rock' replaced 'pop', and the new groovers playing 20 minute extemporised jams, identified themselves more with modern jazz and blues musicians - who, of course, played in... bands. And so it changed. Edited May 24, 2017 by mjmooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, mjmooney said: Definitely this. In the early 60s (beat boom era), old folks listened to bands - random - Acker Bilk and his Paramount Jazz Band, The Billy Cotton Band Show, etc. So young people had 'beat groups'. These tended to be guys in suits, playing three minute pop singles. Come 1966 (blues boom), 1967 (psychedelia), 1968 (progessive), 'rock' replaced 'pop', and the new groovers playing 20 minute extemporised jams, identified themselves more with modern jazz and blues musicians - who, of course, played in... bands. And so it changed. The other factor I wondered about was whether a group has fixed personnel and a band may have a leader but the personnel changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 24, 2017 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, MakemineVanilla said: The other factor I wondered about was whether a group has fixed personnel and a band may have a leader but the personnel changes? Nah, overthinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Boy band and girl group Boy = band Girl = group In reality, i'm sure Mike is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 08:53, TrentVilla said: Dinosaurs didn't have feathers because they didn't exist 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm not superstitious, yet I do find there is something odd and uncomfortable about the number 13. So has superstition risen from it actually being a strange number or do I find it an awkward number because I've been brought up with the idea that it's unlucky? (This has come about because I've booked a flight for a Friday 13th and my wife is annoyed with me. She also seems a bit bemused that I would have booked it and that I'm happy for us to fly on that date, like I'm the idiot.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted May 31, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: I'm not superstitious, yet I do find there is something odd and uncomfortable about the number 13. So has superstition risen from it actually being a strange number or do I find it an awkward number because I've been brought up with the idea that it's unlucky? (This has come about because I've booked a flight for a Friday 13th and my wife is annoyed with me. She also seems a bit bemused that I would have booked it and that I'm happy for us to fly on that date, like I'm the idiot.) Tell her you've conferred with others on the matter and they're unanimous that she's the idiot. That'll put the whole thing nicely to bed. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Paddywhack said: I'm not superstitious, yet I do find there is something odd and uncomfortable about the number 13. So has superstition risen from it actually being a strange number or do I find it an awkward number because I've been brought up with the idea that it's unlucky? (This has come about because I've booked a flight for a Friday 13th and my wife is annoyed with me. She also seems a bit bemused that I would have booked it and that I'm happy for us to fly on that date, like I'm the idiot.) I don't think airllines have a row 13 due to superstition. But they will happily fly on Friday 13th. Edited May 31, 2017 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 13 is supposedly a mystic number. Some hippy type told me that the Christians picked up on it because there were 13 at the Last Supper. He also said ER has some sort of garment with 13 gems that makes her chief of witches. Where's the smiley with the bong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 In China 4, or any number containing a 4, is considered unlucky. It's not uncommon for hotels to avoid having floors number 4, 14, 24 etc. That's why no-one had ever seen a car with Chinese number plates leaving the M4 at Junction 4. Fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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