Mantis Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I thought he was decent for the first calendar year or so that he was here but then he got that bad injury in 2012 followed by Benteke permanently taking his place in the starting line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 He used to live next to a friend of mine in the jewellery quarter. Out late, different girl each time he was seen etc. He definitely enjoys a party, i think maybe he has taken his eye of the ball, as it were. However, aside from all this, I still think there is a goal threat in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 26, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2014 Bye Darren, hope you do well in Brighton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevillanofoz Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 https://metro.co.uk/2014/11/26/why-sunderland-fans-are-laughing-as-aston-villas-darren-bent-moves-to-brighton-4963605/ Wow, this amazes me - it was years ago. Even if it was Stuart Downing I can't imagine many Villans reacting like this. When will they let it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 He's a useless shite that boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Sunderland fans are that thick & stuck inside their little bubble that they can't see that most players would opt for Villa ahead of Sunderland, given the chance. On top of that, ALL players would opt for Villa ahead of Sunderland if there was an offer to double their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Bent got his "big" move to Spurs and essentially flopped despite scoring a few goals. He goes to Sunderland, bangs them in and earns another "big" move by coming here and with all those excellent players we had at the time, despite struggling of course in the league. 6 months later after scoring 9 in 16 we appoint McLeish and lose Young and Downing. Bent knows we are going nowhere and knows he wont get a big move again. His career has hit a glass ceiling that he will never break. Mentally IMO, his head went there. He's 28 and should be at his peak and plays for a lowly Villa side in rapid decline. He probably and rightly, thought he was singed under false pretences. It's no surprise that he lost form shortly after and hasnt looked interested since. He gets farmed out to a terrible Fulham side and now his career has hit its lowest ebb, loaned out to a Championship side at age 30. I'm not condoning all of this, I'm merely giving my opinion on why it went wrong so quickly. I said back in summer 2011 on here that his 9 in 16 contribution will be his best and probably only great contribution for us and its proved to be just that. It's a shame as I really liked him and loved some of those goals from 10-11 that saved our ass. Only good thing that can out of his move for him personally was that he became England's number 1 for a short while. Pretty sure there was one England game when Young-Bent-Downing was the front three for England. Hard to believe now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 He'd have just been fighting relegation year in year out at Sunderland aswell. When Bent signed he said how much he was going to enjoy playing with Young and Downing so I guess he didn't think both would be sold 6 months later although with Young's contract that was always going to happen. The management change for an extremely defensively manager didn't help either and was a bit of a death knell. What I can't understand in all of this is why in his great fondness for signing British players at extortionate prices, why in his four years in charge, why Martin O'Neill didn't sign him at any point of his four years in charge. If the bloke can score 9 in 18 in a McLeish team he'd had scored a hatful in a direct MON team with crosses coming in every 5 seconds. At the time we lacked a third forward who could hit double figures after Gabby and Carew. Heskey and Harewood getting about 5 a season didn't cut it, Bent also getting 10 could well have been the little extra needed to make the top 4 in one of those seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2014 Im glad he has gone out on loan, TBH Id rather have Ched Evans up front! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted November 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2014 Birmingham Mail survey says 80% of supporters would have him in the starting lineup. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postdeath Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If we played with wingers and had him up top with Benteke, he'd score more than enough goals for us. But we don't, and he doesn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Birmingham Mail survey says 80% of supporters would have him in the starting lineup. Amazing. I think it shows how desperate fans are to see a different approach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Honestly? I mean really?! So if a manager doesn't rate you how are you supposed to perform? Not going to exactly boost your confidence is it?No one has offered us a single penny for Darren Bent. Because every single other manager/chairman knows he won't drop his wages from 60k a week (£12 million pounds over the whole 4 years), to go and play for a team on £30k a week. Also, WHY WOULD THE MANAGER KEEP PLAYING A PLAYER WHO HAS ONLY SCORED ABOUT 3 GOALS?! this forum would meltdown if he did that. I strongly suggest you have a look at the deal, know that we vastly overpaid for his services because of the position we were in. Lambert then came in, PLAYED HIM, HE DID NOTHING, so dropped him for a better player/system (Even though that player/system still may not be good enough for you or others). If you cannot see that, then honestly mate, you need your head looking at, it's absolutely completely dumbfounded me how you cannot see any of the salient facts. Do you expect Lambert to keep playing him on the off chance some team will say, "we'll buy that striker from you who's slow, overweight, cannot score etc, and do you know what? We'll give him 60k a week too!!!" - IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. relax Lap, relax, it's all gonna be ok. Prove it. Where's your proof that anyone has? Bent was given a chance under Lambert, was dropped and then got injured when he got back in the team. He came back was played and got injured again. I'm not sure what Lambert did wrong in that first season. Last season he was sent on loan to Fulham and didn't exactly impress under Jol, Meulensteen or Magath. How is that Lamberts fault? I don't recall saying it was Lambert's fault how he got on at Fulham but to be fair which Fulham players did do well? Keiran Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If we played with wingers and had him up top with Benteke, he'd score more than enough goals for us. But we don't, and he doesn't. Supposition. Show me one piece of evidence that is true. Reasonable doubt has passed a long time ago as far as I'm concerned. We're shit, he's worse. Good riddence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I don't recall saying it was Lambert's fault how he got on at Fulham but to be fair which Fulham players did do well? Keiran Richardson. I'd contest that one - wasn't he part of the defence that conceded 85 goals! (although occasionally he looked half decent going forward) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 His record at Fulham was better (in terms of minutes per goal) than Gabby and Andi at Villa last season. So this idea he's "nowhere near good enough to play" is quite laughable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Birmingham Mail survey says 80% of supporters would have him in the starting lineup. Amazing. I think it shows how desperate fans are to see a different approach. I think it shows how a lot of people calling a phone line to answer a question isn't a reliable indicator of either how to proceed, or indeed how most people actually think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 its only a month loan.. if he finds form i am sure Lambert will use him again but whether he can get minutes under his belt and his confidence back is another thing altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Birmingham Mail survey says 80% of supporters would have him in the starting lineup. Amazing. I think it shows how desperate fans are to see a different approach. Or just shows how The Mail is becoming a shit 'sensationalist' tabloid rag..... I wouldn't want Bent anywhere near the bench, let alone the starting XI - he simply doesn't offer enough and the only thing he appears 'hungry' for is another free dinner. Fans moan that we're not creating enough chances, but then want Bent (the classic goal hanger) to dawdle around the final third of the pitch 'hoping' something happens!?!? It's like playing with 10 men. I agree, a different approach is needed - overlapping wide runs resulting in crosses - if that went on, we still wouldn't need Bent as I feel the likes of Benteke, Gabby, Weimann and even Robinson would be better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Birmingham Mail survey says 80% of supporters would have him in the starting lineup. Amazing. Amazing? We've scored, what, 7 goals all season and it amazes you that fans would like to see a change up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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