sir_gary_cahill Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, sne said: I imagine you will be quite alone on that one, yes. His career has gone stale because he is a nothing player who is fascinatingly ineffective and who's more focused on his Instagram status and his JLingz clothes brand. He's a muppet. Well, that’s not a surprise, I think he is a very talented footballer. To be on Man Utd’s books for as long as he has, you have to have something about you. I didn’t know he has his own clothes brand, at least he has something to fall back on when he retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I might be the only one and not for the first time but I’d take Lingard in a part exchange deal for Grealish. I think Lingard needs to move to save his career, he’s gone stale at Manchester United in my opinion Lingard?, are you ok SGC? I wouldnt touch lingard with someone else's, terribly overrated footballer. Well, prob not terribly overrated because most people realise he is actually terrible, but still, I feel for any club that wastes money on him, and I pray it isnt us. Edited May 8, 2020 by MaVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Lingard?, are you ok SGC? I wouldnt touch lingard with someone else's, terribly overrated footballer. Well, prob not terribly overrated because most people realise he is actually terrible, but still, I feel for any club that wastes money on him, and I pray it isnt us. I think that a move is what he needs to reignite his career, 24 England caps and 131 games for Manchester United’s first team and you’re turning your nose up at him. He gets so much stick from fans and media alike but I’d take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 If united are willing to pay 70mil I would snap their hands off. Transfers fees are going to drop dramatically. I just don’t see united paying anywhere near his value in the current climate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just now, PaulC said: If united are willing to pay 70mil I would snap their hands off. Transfers fees are going to drop dramatically. I just don’t see united paying anywhere near his value in the current climate Me neither, but as long as we are not relegated our bargaining position will be fairly strong. If we are relegated I fully expect us to be forced to sell for as little as £50m or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I just dont see United needing him, Rashford plays on the left and is an automatic starter. They also want Sancho as well to play on the wing. I think United will not spend big but will go all in for Sancho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 We shouldn't be in a rush to sell him based on some perceived idea that the transfer fee is a huge amount in the current climate, knowing our luck we'd do that and then further along in the transfer window lesser players would start moving for bigger sums; if I remember rightly something similar happened with Barry, we though we got a really good deal for someone in the last year of their contract, then other players in the same situation moved for more money later in the window. Hopefully we don't sell him at all, but that will be dicated to some degree by which division we're in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think that a move is what he needs to reignite his career, 24 England caps and 131 games for Manchester United’s first team and you’re turning your nose up at him. He gets so much stick from fans and media alike but I’d take him He's just not focused mate. I followed him and Deli Ali on insta for a while. You would think they didn't have football careers. Mourinho has got Deli back on track, Lingard still a bit of a lost cause under solskjaer, but a very talented footballer no doubt, not for us though no way, he would just take a wage with us, like many in past have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: He's just not focused mate. I followed him and Deli Ali on insta for a while. You would think they didn't have football careers. Mourinho has got Deli back on track, Lingard still a bit of a lost cause under solskjaer, but a very talented footballer no doubt, not for us though no way, he would just take a wage with us, like many in past have. I think he’d be worth a gamble, every transfer is a gamble these days, regardless of the fee paid. Smith would need to find a way to get the best out of him, don’t ask me how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: He's just not focused mate. I followed him and Deli Ali on insta for a while. You would think they didn't have football careers. Mourinho has got Deli back on track, Lingard still a bit of a lost cause under solskjaer, but a very talented footballer no doubt, not for us though no way, he would just take a wage with us, like many in past have. Thats why character is so important.....arguably as important as talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, PaulC said: If united are willing to pay 70mil I would snap their hands off. Transfers fees are going to drop dramatically. I just don’t see united paying anywhere near his value in the current climate I'm not sure where this transfer fees dropping dramatically stuff comes from Do we need the money? Then why would our valuation of him drop? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, PaulC said: If united are willing to pay 70mil I would snap their hands off. Transfers fees are going to drop dramatically. I just don’t see united paying anywhere near his value in the current climate I know many wouldn’t agree but I actually think that’s probably his value. When he plays for a top team he won’t stand out as much as he does for us. Edited May 8, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Think I rather get Steven Ireland back out of retirement than sign JLingz. Lingard has Mino Raiola as agent and is already on £75k + bonuses at Manure. Raiola will want a couple of millions in agent fees and Lingard will want more than he's on at Manure + a hefty sign on bonus. It would be like the James Milner / Steven Ireland deal only 1000 times worse. And JLingz would absolutely not be named player of the year for us unlike Ireland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, sne said: Think I rather get Steven Ireland back out of retirement than sign JLingz. Lingard has Mino Raiola as agent and is already on £75k + bonuses at Manure. Raiola will want a couple of millions in agent fees and Lingard will want more than he's on at Manure + a hefty sign on bonus. It would be like the James Milner / Steven Ireland deal only 1000 times worse. And JLingz would absolutely not be named player of the year for us unlike Ireland He would probably be better than most of what we have but I can’t stand the guy after seeing his ‘Beans’ clip. What an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He would probably be better than most of what we have but I can’t stand the guy after seeing his ‘Beans’ clip. What an idiot. There has been players and managers through the years that I really didn't want at Villa for various reasons. Most of them obviously never set their foot here. But the likes of Heskey, McLeish and Bruce fall into that category as I see them as a bit of a joke and just not good enough for what we needed. Drinkwater being unprofessional and a drunk driver certainly falls into another category I didn't want here and JLingz is right there in yet another category with him being a bell end. There are a few more but these guys were/are big red flags for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 21 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think he’d be worth a gamble, every transfer is a gamble these days, regardless of the fee paid. Smith would need to find a way to get the best out of him, don’t ask me how Don’t want any more of those attitudes at Villa, attitude for me is just as important as talent. This “finding a way to get the best out of him” is a fools games, I mean how many players has that been said about and every manager has failed. Given me your McGinn’s, Shaun Teale’s and Ian Taylor’s any day of the week over him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Ancelotti will have a summer desperately trying to convince kenwright not to buy him His career is only going down one path and its a path we've seen with a lot of English players, there's nothing to suggest he will do anything different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) The only man utd players who are not tainted are the young full back brandon williams, anthony martial (class dribbler) and mason greedwood who looks like one of these robbie fowler type (one touch.... goal) Lingard is the eptiome of over hyped english player. if he was playing for norwich you wouldn't have heard of him. giving grealish away and taking lingard would be like: a)selling ashly young and bringing in charles nzogbia b)selling Christian benteke and bringing in rudy gestede lz)etting Vlaar leave and bringing in a knackered lesscot but on the next level of stupidity. Agbonlahor's done some interviews recently where he said when the club sold all the best players the rest of the lads stopped giving a shit. do what you've always done get what you've always gotten Edited May 9, 2020 by screwdriver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Williams and Greenwood haven't got that "made it" £100k a week as a teenager wonder where it went wrong at 25 type contract yet To be fair to him I'd say rashford has stayed pretty level headed too, he did actually break through and get to a good level before they threw money at him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villan4Life Posted May 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, sne said: There has been players and managers through the years that I really didn't want at Villa for various reasons. Most of them obviously never set their foot here. But the likes of Heskey, McLeish and Bruce fall into that category as I see them as a bit of a joke and just not good enough for what we needed. Drinkwater being unprofessional and a drunk driver certainly falls into another category I didn't want here and JLingz is right there in yet another category with him being a bell end. There are a few more but these guys were/are big red flags for me. On 08/05/2020 at 11:31, sir_gary_cahill said: I think that a move is what he needs to reignite his career, 24 England caps and 131 games for Manchester United’s first team and you’re turning your nose up at him. He gets so much stick from fans and media alike but I’d take him Apply the F.A. 4-corner model on players all the time when accessing players SGC even at youth team level!! Start to do this more lad. I personally wouldn't want Lingard anywhere near the Villa team and would be in dismay if he somehow arrived at B6. i don't care one bit how games he has played for Man Utd or England.I don't rate him. 4-corner model and my own eyes and brain tell' me everything i need to know about him. Jesse wouldn't want come to Villa anyway. Edited May 9, 2020 by Villan4Life 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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