Stevo985 Posted April 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I don't have one, YOU were the one calling people deluded and I called you out on it. The problem was yours remember? And now you are scrambling around blaming me for your comments and doing this pathetic dance! Very strange brew... No you called me out on not thinking other people were allowed to feel a certain way. Which I didn’t do. I just called some things in this thread deluded. I didn’t have a problem. I was just stating my opinion. I don’t see what the issue is. That’s my opinion. You said yourself we’re all allowed an opinion i really don’t see what your issue is. You know what deluded means don’t you? Edited April 24, 2022 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Are they really? Pal, you’ve had a nightmare in here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 He's flopped big time. It's shocking tbh, Even 'Joe bloggs average player' would get atleast 5 goals in the league with the chances City make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 05:57, sidcow said: I would far rather Liverpool won. I hate them as much as the next man and grew up in their 70's and 80's dominance. Had the plastic arrogant fans a decade before Yanaated. But at least they are a massive club because of organic development, years of success based on good management that clawed them to the top of the pile. Not some run of the mill club just handed a new stadium and given billions to buy their success on the whim of a despotic dictator stealing his peoples money and pissing it into the wind for his pleasure / sports washing. Don't mean to take this off topic, especially since I fully agree with you here. But to be pedantic, despite how bad their foreign policy is or how they treat foreign workers, their own people are well taken care of and live better than 99% of us in the West. The sports washing is for the aforementioned foreign policy. Not that the average person even knows or cares about their involvement in Yemen et al, which I guess means that it's working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Stevo985 said: No you called me out on not thinking other people were allowed to feel a certain way. Which I didn’t do. I just called some things in this thread deluded. I didn’t have a problem. I was just stating my opinion. I don’t see what the issue is. That’s my opinion. You said yourself we’re all allowed an opinion i really don’t see what your issue is. You know what deluded means don’t you? We still doing this Wow, ego... And there was me thinking calling folks "deluded" was a little harsh, perhaps I'll need to look up a new 'Keyboard Warrior Code of Ethics'. Pretty certain if you go around calling people deluded face to face you won't have too many friends; but then I presume it's OK over a forum? And the purpose of a forum and even this thread is debate. The definition of deluded is to be believe in a false proposition and from what I can tell nobody is right or wrong in this thread we all have differences of opinion. To simply fire off and shout deluded doesn't really add much, hence my initial point. A thesaurus will help you... Keep dancing, I'm out... Edited April 25, 2022 by Zhan_Zhuang Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: We still doing this Wow, ego... And there was me thinking calling folks "deluded" was a little harsh, perhaps I'll need to look up a new 'Keyboard Warrior Code of Ethics'. Pretty certain if you go around calling people deluded face to face you won't have too many friends; but then I presume it's OK over a forum? And the purpose of a forum and even this thread is debate. The definition of deluded is to be believe in a false proposition and from what I can tell nobody is right or wrong in this thread we all have differences of opinion. To simply fire off and shout deluded doesn't really add much, hence my initial point. A thesaurus will help you... Keep dancing, I'm out... Jesus christ what on earth are you talking about 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Anyways... grealish is still a melt I rwckon he rocks up at Newcastle in next 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2022 This thread is so weird in so many ways. It's worse than On Topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 09:16, WakefieldVillan said: Regardless of having a poor season (compared to the Villa Jack) he won't have any regrets at all and I would say we're deluded to think otherwise. Adding to the deluded debate that's going on - Not sure if the comment of being deluded was aimed at me - as I had been posting prior to the comment? But just to reiterate my stance on the matter (if it was aimed at me) - 1) I for one do not think Jack in any way, shape or form is regretting his move to City. 2) I still think he is the same talented player he was when he was at Villa - But since his move he has not played anywhere near to his full capabilities and not doing the things he is great at. We all know the reasons for this (Pep's tactics/playing as a false nine/opposition with 10 men behind the ball ETC). 3) Some Villa fans will want him to do well still and go on and win a league or a champions league - I don't have a problem with that, he brought us so much joy watching him play for us, that won't be forgotten - But I personally hope he doesn't. I want AVFC to be the best and I want the best players to want to play (& win things) with AVFC. 4) His contributions to any potential City success thus far is pretty minimal. You only have to go on their forums to see many have been disappointed with him. 5) I hope he plays in the World Cup like the (Villa) JG and hopefully brings England success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 He's doing ok, not amazing, not terrible. 3 goals and 3 assists in 24 matches played. Will probably win a Premier League and possibly a Champions League as well. Next season will probably have integrated into the team better, will get more assists and goals and will win more trophies. £100m is a lot of money, but that's £20m a season. Maybe less per season if he stays longer than 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, ender4 said: He's doing ok, not amazing, not terrible. 3 goals and 3 assists in 24 matches played. Will probably win a Premier League and possibly a Champions League as well. Next season will probably have integrated into the team better, will get more assists and goals and will win more trophies. £100m is a lot of money, but that's £20m a season. Maybe less per season if he stays longer than 5 years. I still demand more from a 100 million player. I cant remember a City game he has dominated in compared to his Villa days Compare to Bailey who cost 30 million yet has 1 goal, 3 assists in a new league and some on here labelling him a park player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: I still demand more from a 100 million player. I cant remember a City game he has dominated in compared to his Villa days Compare to Bailey who cost 30 million yet has 1 goal, 3 assists in a new league and some on here labelling him a park player Tells you more about some on here Again the problem with the goals and assists stats are that you won't have to venture too deep in to this thread to find villa fans defending him for poor stats because he did so much more but now apparently it's a stick to beat him with because he's not our player? Doesn't sit right with me If you were to wheel out chances created stats, carries in to the penalty box stats etc then that's different (and I honestly don't know if there is a big drop off) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, villa4europe said: Tells you more about some on here Again the problem with the goals and assists stats are that you won't have to venture too deep in to this thread to find villa fans defending him for poor stats because he did so much more but now apparently it's a stick to beat him with because he's not our player? Doesn't sit right with me If you were to wheel out chances created stats, carries in to the penalty box stats etc then that's different (and I honestly don't know if there is a big drop off) I dont think he has become shit and stats can be misleading but I dont think he is as influential as he could. I dont see him standing out and its a waste of a football talent Then again this wouldnt be highlighted so much except the ridiculous transfer fee and he is our former player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ender4 said: He's doing ok, not amazing, not terrible. 3 goals and 3 assists in 24 matches played. Will probably win a Premier League and possibly a Champions League as well. Next season will probably have integrated into the team better, will get more assists and goals and will win more trophies. £100m is a lot of money, but that's £20m a season. Maybe less per season if he stays longer than 5 years. Hes gone from being the best player at one club to being somewhere about halfway down that list at his new club. That would probably take some adjustment for him, time will tell whether he's up to it. Anyway, I'm not supposed to be in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ender4 said: He's doing ok, not amazing, not terrible. Jack Grealish, the 3.6 Roentgen of the football world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said: Hes gone from being the best player at one club to being somewhere about halfway down that list at his new club. He's also trebled his wages and will win medals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: Tells you more about some on here Again the problem with the goals and assists stats are that you won't have to venture too deep in to this thread to find villa fans defending him for poor stats because he did so much more but now apparently it's a stick to beat him with because he's not our player? Doesn't sit right with me If you were to wheel out chances created stats, carries in to the penalty box stats etc then that's different (and I honestly don't know if there is a big drop off) I think the difference is that now he's a 100m player who plays as a second striker a lot of the time. You kind of do expect goals and assists from someone like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Keeps his place on the bench. City 2-0 up after 10 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Watching this i can see why he hasnt succeeded so far at Citeh. This is such good football and thats coming from someone who normally is bored to death by them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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