villa4europe Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Only watched the highlights but he looked far more involved, like he enjoyed the boos and kicks from the Leeds fans and players Again though lots of goals and he had no involvement with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 For £100 million, you expect more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Just now, AVFCforever1991 said: For £100 million, you expect more Biggest english flop in history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 The Mirror (I know) reporting that Pep is going to sign a new contract. If true, that isn’t great news for Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, AVFCforever1991 said: For £100 million, you expect more Again, those statistics weren't great at villa either, they're not why they paid £100m for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) His stats are fine. He needs to improve his output, but as V4E says, that was never his game anyway villa fans spent years defending his lack of goals and assists because he does so much more, and now this same fans are using those against him. It needs to improve, but the underlying numbers aren’t far off at all Edited May 1, 2022 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Would love it if their lack of signing a striker, and focusing on JG loses them all their competitions this year. Poetic. One can hope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jareth said: Would love it if their lack of signing a striker, and focusing on JG loses them all their competitions this year. Poetic. One can hope. Maybe but I do think signing Haaland this summer rather than kane last summer will be better for them long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 57 minutes ago, Jareth said: Would love it if their lack of signing a striker, and focusing on JG loses them all their competitions this year. Poetic. One can hope. I don’t, because that would mean Liverpool doing a triple or quadruple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 He really doesnt do any of this anymore, its a pity. For people that said he was overrated here this is against probably the best team in the world including VVD greatest defender in history 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted May 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2022 This claim that he was 'over-rated' is just the purest nonsense. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 01/05/2022 at 10:14, Stevo985 said: His stats are fine. He needs to improve his output, but as V4E says, that was never his game anyway villa fans spent years defending his lack of goals and assists because he does so much more, and now this same fans are using those against him. It needs to improve, but the underlying numbers aren’t far off at all But surely that changes when you're the most expensive player in the history of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: But surely that changes when you're the most expensive player in the history of the league. Why would his price tag change the kind of player he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: But surely that changes when you're the most expensive player in the history of the league. Why? He wasn't bought to score goals, that's not his game, for some reason pep has stated more than once that he can play upfront and he does but he can't and its weird His game was never about goals or finishing, in fact it's the weakest part of his game The strongest is chance creation and carrying the ball up the pitch, that's how we judged him at villa, that's how he should be judged now Those graphs for carries in to the opponents penalty area where he was way off to the right hand side alone by himself, for the whole of Europe, they now go in the bin because it doesn't suit your argument that he's a great player? Nah I can't have that, use the same measuring sticks and if you do I think he's actually doing OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Why would his price tag change the kind of player he is? It changes the expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Why? He wasn't bought to score goals, that's not his game, for some reason pep has stated more than once that he can play upfront and he does but he can't and its weird His game was never about goals or finishing, in fact it's the weakest part of his game The strongest is chance creation and carrying the ball up the pitch, that's how we judged him at villa, that's how he should be judged now Those graphs for carries in to the opponents penalty area where he was way off to the right hand side alone by himself, for the whole of Europe, they now go in the bin because it doesn't suit your argument that he's a great player? Nah I can't have that, use the same measuring sticks and if you do I think he's actually doing OK I don't think all stats get ignored. But when you're the most expensive signing in league history and an attacking player, goals and assists are expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I don't think all stats get ignored. But when you're the most expensive signing in league history and an attacking player, goals and assists are expected. Was the same when utd signed pogba, £80m and here's his goal stats compared to lampards Its not his game, its not grealish either, City must have known that when they bought him, he's not a natural goalscorer never will be, the price tag and then what he should do because of it is nonsense There's always been a logic that he creates a lot of chances and if you put him in a better team with a better striker that his assist stats would increase, it looks like he's still creating chances but his assist stats are poor and that's something different, maybe him and Haaland will click And all of that is before you look at how pep uses him, its hard to score and assist when your job is play 50 5 yard passes to your left back every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, DCJonah said: It changes the expectations. It shouldn't change the expectations of the kind of player he is. If you'd spent £100m on Modric 10 years ago you wouldn't suddenly expect him to start scoring 15 goals a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It shouldn't change the expectations of the kind of player he is. If you'd spent £100m on Modric 10 years ago you wouldn't suddenly expect him to start scoring 15 goals a season No but you would want Modric to still perform, same with Pogba comparison he has been a huge flop on the pitch and somehow helped make United midfield worse City have paid 100 million so yes expectations are higher but I can’t remember him having one great performance since he joined City. He has been a sub for City major games as well as his manager doesn't seem to trust him Edited May 3, 2022 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Still has to go down as the freatest piece of business. Even with our struggles getting 100m for him. We utterly mugged them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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