sheepyvillian Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 17/12/2021 at 20:06, Villan_of_oz said: Or people are just critiquing his performances, do you see the irony in telling people to grow up It's almost like an ironic pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, mykeyb said: Pretty predictable. City didn't need him and he is still burning the candle at both ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he is just a bit player at the World Cup as Southgate doesn't trust him in the first place. Grass isn't always greener Jack despite what ever vision your agent span you. The money was certainly greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JPJCB Posted December 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Robbie09 said: I don’t think Gerard would cut him as much slack as Deano did either. He isn’t going to fully reach his potential unless he curbs his lifestyle. And I don’t think he can. Quite possible we look back in 10 years time and realise that grealish’s world class level was largely a part of the managerial environment created by Smith who, somehow, seemed to know exactly how to get the best out of him. Simultaneously made him feel like the best player in the world while also pushing him/encouraging his drive and ambition. all the evidence suggests that other managers he’s played for can’t do the same. He never reached the heights at villa before smith; has never looked as good for England; and has dropped off massively under pep 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Smith was the perfect blend of father figure/manager for Jack - knew when to pick him up and how to make him feel like the best player in the world - the team built around him, hanging on his pulled down socks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, The_Steve said: Smith was the perfect blend of father figure/manager for Jack - knew when to pick him up and how to make him feel like the best player in the world - the team built around him, hanging on his pulled down socks. Got the best form of his career out of him too. Looks like he's going to need another freak injury to get his head back on straight. You're 26 years old dude, fix up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I've no doubt he's going to have a few medals, but I'm certain he'll look back on his playing days wondering what might have been if he kept his head down and worked harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I've no doubt he's going to have a few medals, but I'm certain he'll look back on his playing days wondering what might have been if he kept his head down and worked harder. Imagine him with Ronaldo's professionalism and work ethic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post nick76 Posted December 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, JPJCB said: Quite possible we look back in 10 years time and realise that grealish’s world class level was largely a part of the managerial environment created by Smith who, somehow, seemed to know exactly how to get the best out of him. Simultaneously made him feel like the best player in the world while also pushing him/encouraging his drive and ambition. all the evidence suggests that other managers he’s played for can’t do the same. He never reached the heights at villa before smith; has never looked as good for England; and has dropped off massively under pep I have tongue in cheek commented on here before to those who said Smith only did so well because of Jack that maybe Jack only did so well because of Smith. Maybe both are true. Sometimes a player only ever clicks under one manager in their career. I think we have a long way to go before we ever consider that for Jack but he’s not thrived under Southgate and been less than average for City under Pep so far. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: I've no doubt he's going to have a few medals, but I'm certain he'll look back on his playing days wondering what might have been if he kept his head down and worked harder. Or stayed at the Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I think it'll click for him if he gets his head screwed on. He'll light it up for City as he did for us and be well worth the money and medals. If he doesn't though he'll be shipped out and maybe end up regretting some of his prime years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: I think it'll click for him if he gets his head screwed on. He'll light it up for City as he did for us and be well worth the money and medals. If he doesn't though he'll be shipped out and maybe end up regretting some of his prime years. He is 26 though its not like he is 20 year old youngste breaking through. Foden will get back in the good books quicker for that reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I was sick to my stomach when he left, but understood it to a degree. Jack, lighting it up as a world class footballer on the european and international stage. I hope it comes true for him because I've learned to live with that scenario. I'm at peace with it after the turmoil of that gutwrenching summer. Imagine though, he floos and after a couple of years he's playing his football at everton, newcastle, west ham etc. What a **** waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Is he the next David Bentley? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 If he isn’t careful he can waste his career away. He should take this warning from Pep very seriously. I think he will now though. Probably needed being called out in public as the wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 He needs to be careful. Guardiola will bomb him out if he thinks he is a bad influence on Foden. Again its not the worst thing in the world he has done , but its just immaturity to go out on the town with covid rife. And he is now 26 and still not maturing . He will most probably win medals while he is in the squad but his teammates will be winning the football matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, MWARLEY2 said: He needs to be careful. Guardiola will bomb him out if he thinks he is a bad influence on Foden. Again its not the worst thing in the world he has done , but its just immaturity to go out on the town with covid rife. And he is now 26 and still not maturing . He will most probably win medals while he is in the squad but his teammates will be winning the football matches. Imagine bombing out a 100 million signing. I am sorry the manager should be sacked for buying that player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Imagine bombing out a 100 million signing. I am sorry the manager should be sacked for buying that player I dont think it was a Guardiola signing. It was a brand signing. Following on from him gradually becoming box office over the season . Obviously he will have given the goahead as why not have another talented player but they lack well behind in the popularity stakes and he was the one to get national and international interest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MWARLEY2 Posted December 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2021 I know this has been done to death but i think taking Grealish out of the equation and replacing him with a like for like from another era shows how unsuitable he is to Man City . Its the equivalent of say buying Le Tissier and then putting him in that City Team. All that off the cuff play and individuality being negated . Side to side passing . No counterattacking . Probing without running with the ball. Totall waste of a talent . Absolutely a waste of money. But to us as a club as Purslow said , he was worth £100 mill. The irony of it all is that under Gerrard i think he would have actually increased his assists and goals as one of the 2 number 10s and thrived under him as much as he did under Smith . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 hours ago, JPJCB said: Quite possible we look back in 10 years time and realise that grealish’s world class level was largely a part of the managerial environment created by Smith who, somehow, seemed to know exactly how to get the best out of him. Simultaneously made him feel like the best player in the world while also pushing him/encouraging his drive and ambition. all the evidence suggests that other managers he’s played for can’t do the same. He never reached the heights at villa before smith; has never looked as good for England; and has dropped off massively under pep Alan Ball had a similar relationship with Le Tissier and to some extent with Kinkladze at City, and that’s arguably when they both shone brightest. These off the cuff players usually respond best to positive man managers who let them do their thing. I’m sure there are elite managers in world football who could get a tune out of Jack, but Pep isn’t a natural fit. He’ll do okay there I think, just because he’s so talented, and they use their whole squad, but he’d have enjoyed it much more at a different club under a different type of manager. (And frankly, if he’d stayed here, he’d probably still be performing well for Smith.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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