Don_Simon Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Doesn't look like a personal dream when ever since our Owners come in he were looking for a way out at one of the usual top finishers in the league. You're the jilted ex that can't get over the love of your life being happy with someone else. He said in interviews its been his dream. Scoring against Blues whilst getting attacked was "the best day of my life". Of course it was his dream. Now he's moved on and we will too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter Griffin Posted September 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: And the noises from Villatalk saying that he wouldn't leave because of his great relationship with Smith. He may have liked him as a person but clearly didn't respect him as a manager if he felt he had to move to fulfill his ambitions. We need to stop talking a good game and show it on the pitch. If we don't break into that top 6 we will keep losing our best players. That doesn't make sense. Of course he can respect Smith while thinking he will not get the opportunities at Villa as he is getting at City. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, VillaFaninLondon said: 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Yeah, a lot of those posters now praising Grealish for leaving Villa will also be the same ones defending Smith like their lives depend on it. Can't have much faith in the manager if they believe Grealish had to leave Villa because we weren't going anywhere. I won't be one of them. Smith is doing a good job but he is very much under the spotlight. I won't be shedding to many tears when he leaves but he I do respect the man for what he is doing. A poor season this year and we could be looking for his replacement. As for Grealish leaving Villa because we weren't going anywhere. I don't believe he ever said that and nor do I believe he believes it. Anyone that follows football can see Villa is on the rise, it is just the speed of that rise would not suit Grealish at his stage in his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Yeah, a lot of those posters now praising Grealish for leaving Villa will also be the same ones defending Smith like their lives depend on it. Can't have much faith in the manager if they believe Grealish had to leave Villa because we weren't going anywhere. Everton's last manager was hired from Real Madrid . . . and they finished one place above us in the league. We could go out and get another manager, but they won't get us into Europe. Sorry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 43 minutes ago, Davkaus said: He's still doing that wanky fingers in ear celebration? Yep, but just a heads up that on Saturday it's gonna be a great celebration when Bailey does it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Peter Griffin said: I won't be one of them. Smith is doing a good job but he is very much under the spotlight. I won't be shedding to many tears when he leaves but he I do respect the man for what he is doing. A poor season this year and we could be looking for his replacement. As for Grealish leaving Villa because we weren't going anywhere. I don't believe he ever said that and nor do I believe he believes it. Anyone that follows football can see Villa is on the rise, it is just the speed of that rise would not suit Grealish at his stage in his career The challenge for Smith is progressing the club without Grealish. So far this season he hasn't shown that he can but he's had injuries, COVID etc to contend with. Now we have an almost fully fit squad expectations will rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted September 16, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: And the noises from Villatalk saying that he wouldn't leave because of his great relationship with Smith. He may have liked him as a person but clearly didn't respect him as a manager if he felt he had to move to fulfill his ambitions. We need to stop talking a good game and show it on the pitch. If we don't break into that top 6 we will keep losing our best players. This is honestly just absolute horseshit 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Yeah, a lot of those posters now praising Grealish for leaving Villa will also be the same ones defending Smith like their lives depend on it. Can't have much faith in the manager if they believe Grealish had to leave Villa because we weren't going anywhere. Nobody is PRAISING Grealish for leaving. People merely understand why he did. And that doesn't mean we have no faith in the manager. We can think that Dean Smith is taking us somewhere AND understand that it isn't going to be where Man City are any time soon. It would take us 10 years of everything going absolutely perfectly to get to where Man City are now grealish would be retired by the time we got there. As @Keybladesaid, in one night he's played in the champions league, scored, and done it alongside one of the best players in the world and his idol. Realistically, are we going to be able to offer him that during his career here? Maybe... but probably not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 It must have at least popped into his mind at some point how he was finally living out his dreams but it was in such a soulless, flat environment. We'll remind him what a rocking stadium is in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denaldinho Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Played well last night goal n assist despite the erm low key atmosphere at the ground. Arsenal eventually became like that after all their success hence the name "the library". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I wonder if it's noticeable in the moment as a player how desensitized their fans are to success, or you're so elated at scoring that it doesn't register. When he ran up to their fans to celebrate pretty much all of them had their phones out to take a picture. There was no manic excitement with fans desperately trying to get to the front just to touch their hero, just a load of people calmly completing their photographic record to prove they were a few metres away. I get that years on end in a competition may take away some of the novelty, but it's not like they've ever won it. I'd like to think if it was us in the same position that our record signing scoring their first European goal would still be enough to elicit some passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 23 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Nobody is PRAISING Grealish for leaving. People merely understand why he did. And that doesn't mean we have no faith in the manager. We can think that Dean Smith is taking us somewhere AND understand that it isn't going to be where Man City are any time soon. It would take us 10 years of everything going absolutely perfectly to get to where Man City are now grealish would be retired by the time we got there. As @Keybladesaid, in one night he's played in the champions league, scored, and done it alongside one of the best players in the world and his idol. Realistically, are we going to be able to offer him that during his career here? Maybe... but probably not Understanding why he left is different to bigging up City while putting down Villa which is just baffling when you're supposed to be a Villa fan. I frankly couldn't care less about Grealish and his career, great player for us but I love the club more than a single player. He wasn't on board with what we were trying to achieve and he sold out. That's fine but we seem to talk about him more now than when he was at Villa FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I mean, I agree with the bolded. I pouted a bit for a day, and then I've got on with it and it's fine. But there are people in this thread who seem extremely butt-hurt about it, and like they are really struggling to recover. Agreed. I think I got this out of my system with Dwight Yorke. Not only is that the place where I learned to deal with the shock of a hero leaving, we spent the money on Merson and Dublin proving that you if you are smart with how you replace a player then it doesn’t matter that much. Nobody is bigger than the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WakefieldVillan Posted September 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2021 I'm not ashamed or embarrassed to admit, that even at 44 years young, seeing him play for City hurts a lot as does seeing any of his social media City stuff. I get why he left. We couldn't offer what City can. But I still think he's a Villa fan, he's just in a completely different position to any of us. Moving for me doesn't change that. But for him his career / brand is No 1 priority and has been for a good while. But that's his choice and as hard as it is to take there is no turning back. I don't begrudge any of our supporters wishing him well still at City, he brought us so much joy when wearing the claret & blue, but not for me. I can't bring myself to that at all. I hope he does well when playing for England at major tournaments (given he's a nailed on starter now - Cheers Gareth) but that's all the support I can muster. He will no doubt shine for both though, on the biggest stage - Majority of Villa fans have known this for years now, which makes this whole transfer even harder to take seeing now all the plastic fans jumping on the "Grealish is world class" (now he's at City) bandwagon. Anyway, I can put it all in perspective, it's football at the end of the day - It's not (quite) life or death - Just disappointing that he could have been one of the greatest legends at our club had he stayed on our journey. Oh well. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 **** me. How many pages when he scores the winning in the CL final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, WakefieldVillan said: I'm not ashamed or embarrassed to admit, that even at 44 years young, seeing him play for City hurts a lot as does seeing any of his social media City stuff. I get why he left. We couldn't offer what City can. But I still think he's a Villa fan, he's just in a completely different position to any of us. Moving for me doesn't change that. But for him his career / brand is No 1 priority and has been for a good while. But that's his choice and as hard as it is to take there is no turning back. I don't begrudge any of our supporters wishing him well still at City, he brought us so much joy when wearing the claret & blue, but not for me. I can't bring myself to that at all. I hope he does well when playing for England at major tournaments (given he's a nailed on starter now - Cheers Gareth) but that's all the support I can muster. He will no doubt shine for both though, on the biggest stage - Majority of Villa fans have known this for years now, which makes this whole transfer even harder to take seeing now all the plastic fans jumping on the "Grealish is world class" (now he's at City) bandwagon. Anyway, I can put it all in perspective, it's football at the end of the day - It's not (quite) life or death - Just disappointing that he could have been one of the greatest legends at our club had he stayed on our journey. Oh well. I was with you all the way until that pal. I cannot bring myself to give him any support or encouragement… I can’t stand the England national setup - for years it’s been engineered to prise away our best players by putting them on lads holidays abroad with players at top 6 clubs so they can turn their heads… It happened with Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Delph and now Jack… As soon as they choose to leave Villa for another English club; they lose all of my respect and support… which they are paid handsomely enough not to give a toss about… but then again, I’m that emotionally invested in my club that I shouldn’t be obligated to give a toss about a player who chooses to leave… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I know it's a football forum, but some of you guys need to take a breather from a 25 year old kid who used to play for Aston Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Dave-R said: Looked more world class at Villa than he does at City, I'm afraid it was just a money whore move and whatever made Jack the player he were ended when he threw in respect and loyalty for the expensive way of life and medals. In a way I don't blame him for doing it but he could of showed the world for once that money doesn't always make a player or define one and sticking by Villa would of showed that. Agree 100%. I think he will eventually reach those villa levels though. JG10 the brand is the most important thing for him right now and appears its been that way ever since he was given the armband. Sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: I was with you all the way until that pal. I cannot bring myself to give him any support or encouragement… I can’t stand the England national setup - for years it’s been engineered to prise away our best players by putting them on lads holidays abroad with players at top 6 clubs so they can turn their heads… It happened with Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Delph and now Jack… As soon as they choose to leave Villa for another English club; they lose all of my respect and support… which they are paid handsomely enough not to give a toss about… but then again, I’m that emotionally invested in my club that I shouldn’t be obligated to give a toss about a player who chooses to leave… To be honest I understand fully where you are coming from, maybe I had my Italia 90 head on when I posted that bit - I'm not a fan of Southgate and watching England isn't the same as it was for me in years gone by. I think my point is, which I badly put, "it's easier watching him play for England than it is for City". I can watch him perform for England and think our famous club got him performing at these standards (regardless of what the clueless/top 6 driven media try to tell us). I agree with your sentiments though about the National team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 https://www.instagram.com/p/CT4SmuSIQFQ/?utm_medium=copy_link Pep asking their fans to go to the stadium on Saturday to help boost their tired players. How embarrassing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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