Laughable Chimp Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AV82 said: Is he meant to take on 11 people himself and hit a screamer? We’re shitting on Jack for not dancing through their team. What is he meant to do if we have 20~% possession as a team? I noticed he closed down more than anyone else today, give up if you think Grealish doesn’t care. He has a hard job, but he's capable of more than he showed out there. He's always the most closed down out of anyone else but when on form, he always finds a way to shine. Sorry to say, but he really hasn't done so in the last 4 games or so. And its pretty noticeable due to how much we rely on him. Edited June 21, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Its like he is already playing for Manchester united. Lazy passing poor performances. Rather we get the 80m if he is going to plah as shit as he has the last two games. Does not seem interested in the slightest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Time to get him off the wing. Was fouled a lot in half decent positions and we take quick freekicks, we need to starting loading the box and hope it creates a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Its like he is already playing for Manchester united. Lazy passing poor performances. Rather we get the 80m if he is going to plah as shit as he has the last two games. Does not seem interested in the slightest If you’ve got 5 year deal 160k p/w on the table are you going to be 100% in every tackle? This is the captain of our club, a supposed fan and he’s basically phoning it in when the chips are down because he’s had his head turned by United. The fact Smith hasn’t taken the captaincy suggests he’s either inept or Jack’s lying but tbh I think most of Jacks mates in the squad know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 The wing position is killing him and us. Football 101 - play your best player in his best position. LW is not that for Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, Fairy In Boots said: If you’ve got 5 year deal 160k p/w on the table are you going to be 100% in every tackle? This is the captain of our club, a supposed fan and he’s basically phoning it in when the chips are down because he’s had his head turned by United. The fact Smith hasn’t taken the captaincy suggests he’s either inept or Jack’s lying but tbh I think most of Jacks mates in the squad know I couldnt care less what contract he has waiting for him at united. He is a villa player. He definitely looks like a player whoses head has been turned up united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I couldnt care less what contract he has waiting for him at united. He is a villa player. He definitely looks like a player whoses head has been turned up united Could be. But I really do think some of it is also DS’s stubbornness to keep playing him on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, nick76 said: I disagree, we arent expecting that. It's just that he hasnt been Jack, hasnt been asking for the ball, has been strolling around the park and barely involved in anything....it's just not him. One game ok but second game doing the same thing, it's just not him being him. To give one example he dropped back into our half multiple times trying to start something. As a left winger. Hourihane was invisible. McGinn even more so. El Ghazi spineless. How can Jack have an impact if none of our players are giving him the ball? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, AV82 said: To give one example he dropped back into our half multiple times trying to start something. As a left winger. Hourihane was invisible. McGinn even more so. El Ghazi spineless. How can Jack have an impact if none of our players are giving him the ball? I'm not disagreeing with you about the others, I dont think Jack was doing much either today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 We really just assuming he's off to United based on some shoddy reports from some shitty rags? Give your heads a wobble lads. He just looks frustrated playing alongside all this dross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Put Grealsh in midfield and he might play well, but it would make the team a lot weaker than it already is, we can't afford to drop one of our midfielders for a playmaker, teams would walk through us even more. And it's since switching to the wing that Grealish's form has picked up and he's started scoring and assisting, when he was playing midfield earlier in the season people were questioning whether he was better than McGinn. MIght get away with playing him in midfield in the championship, but not the premier league, only way it might work is if we played a diamond system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, useless said: Put Grealsh in midfield and he might play well, but it would make the team a lot weaker than it already is, we can't afford to drop one of our midfielders for a playmaker, teams would walk through us even more. And it's since switching to the wing that Grealish's form has picked up and he's started scoring and assisting, when he was playing midfield earlier in the season people were questioning whether he was better than McGinn. MIght get away with playing him in midfield in the championship, but not the premier league, only way it might work is if we played a diamond system. 3-4-1-2 Konsa Mings Hause Elmo Luiz McGinn Targett Grealish Sammata Davis 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 That might work, think our best run of form came with three at the back, and allows us to play both Samatta and Davis, I guess some might say now is not the time to be experimenting with formations, but haven't got much to lose now. Also Davis can drop deep and help in midfield as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimevalVillan Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 I just think it demoralizing that anytime he tries to do something he gets fouled. And maybe, I am being whiny but anytime we commit the kinds of fouls that are done to him, it is a quick yellow. Every time it stops our run of play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, nick76 said: I'm not disagreeing with you about the others, I dont think Jack was doing much either today. That’s fair. He certainly could’ve put Mings through at one point so I see your disappointment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: If you’ve got 5 year deal 160k p/w on the table are you going to be 100% in every tackle? This is the captain of our club, a supposed fan and he’s basically phoning it in when the chips are down because he’s had his head turned by United. The fact Smith hasn’t taken the captaincy suggests he’s either inept or Jack’s lying but tbh I think most of Jacks mates in the squad know Another one going on the ignore list 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, Keyblade said: We really just assuming he's off to United based on some shoddy reports from some shitty rags? Give your heads a wobble lads. He just looks frustrated playing alongside all this dross. Nah I know from his camp. Won’t specifically say who but it’s done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: Nah I know from his camp. Won’t specifically say who but it’s done So what United have agreed 80m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted June 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2020 Love Jack. He is unique. It will be a long time we'll have someone like him, if and when he leaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: So what United have agreed 80m? No but Villa’s board value him at that and have said if it’s met you can leave. Southgate has had a hand to in fairness told him to leave us, spends too long without the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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