Marka Ragnos Posted June 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Who do you consider the most interestingly difficult, useless, villainous, overly selfish, reckless, ungrateful, dishonest, or otherwise problematic player in Villa history? This is absolutely not meant to denigrate or attack any individual, living or dead, but really merely to look at Villa's various amazing casts of player-characters over the years, perhaps even with a begrudging sense of affection for these difficult ones. Indeed, this person might simply be a lot more interesting and a lot more fun than the average virtuous player--and a better player, too. It could be someone who was "a problem" during their time playing for Villa, or someone who, post-Villa, went on to bring infamy and ignominy to themselves or the badge. Who's your greatest Villa Villain?* * Inspired by a recent Claret & Blue podcast Edited June 9, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Gabby or Collymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StewieGriffin Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 I suspect we may struggle to come to a consensus here... Early contender for me would be Doug, as the bad far outweighed the good. But no-one can rival Dr Tony for what he did - he very nearly cost us our club, and there can be no greater crime 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Savo? Alpay? Probably Collymore, promised so much but a complete disaster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Honestly can’t see how this can’t be Ellis. Narcissistic areshole that tried to wipe our greatest achievement from our history. In recent years I’ve come to loathe parisites like Gabby, but this clearing in the woods will always be hated. rocket polisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaVilla Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Who do you consider the most interestingly difficult, useless, villainous, overly selfish, reckless, ungrateful, dishonest, or otherwise problematic player in Villa history? This is absolutely not meant to denigrate or attack any individual, living or dead, but really merely to look at Villa's various amazing casts of player-characters over the years, perhaps even with a begrudging sense of affection for these difficult ones. Indeed, this person might simply be a lot more interesting and a lot more fun than the average virtuous player--and a better player, too. It could be someone who was "a problem" during their time playing for Villa, or someone who, post-Villa, went on to bring infamy and ignominy to themselves or the badge. Who's your greatest Villa Villain?* * Inspired by a recent Claret & Blue podcast what minute is this question at in this podcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Follyfoot Posted June 9, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 Noel Blake 'You've got to pick a pocket or two' 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marka Ragnos Posted June 9, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MaVilla said: what minute is this question at in this podcast? It's only "inspired by," not a direct question -- in the 26th minute the guys talk about some difficult or interesting managers and players who would make fascinating subjects for interviews. Starting about here: Edited June 9, 2023 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Doug Ellis. Took over when the club was at it's peak and penny pinched when we should have been maintaining our position, from which we've never recovered. Player wise, the player who rinsed the most money for worst overall effort is probably Richards, at least Gabby while a waste of oxygen for the last few years was at least somewhat effective for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Bosko Balaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Ellis. If it wasn't for him we could have been at a level of a Liverpool or Arsenal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2023 It’s before my time as a supporter but I think I’ve seen Steve Hodge’s name mentioned once or twice in relation to this sort of thing. Fabian Delph. I don’t mind him going to City, they way he did wasn’t great. Ross McCormack. Utter waste of money and space. Ellis and Xia will both be (un)popular names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) Steve Hodge from when I was younger, We have had numerous from the relegation years later on. Edited June 9, 2023 by NeilS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Ellis is the obvious one but I don't think he was a bad person, just a reactionary and limited chairman. Steve Hodge was a word removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 A lot of villains have come and gone but most of them had no connection to the club beyond us being their employer. For that reason I will always be particularly sour about one Mr. 'Best fan eva' Grealish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted June 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, choffer said: Worse thing is the bell end has that audacity to celebrate the play off final win like if he has made any meaningful contribution towards it. Given the fact he is in house arrest now I have no doubt he was just using the club as some laundering schemes or just chancing it to expand his dormant empire. Right word removed. Dr snooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBM Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Randy Lerner has got to be in with a shout. Started so well then mismanaged us to relegation, sold us to a complete chancer who nearly had the club wound-up. Dark times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Might be controversial I'd say Xia, he could've killed us. Lerner over-promised, under-delivered.. Player wise Collymore or Richards (although I quite like his tv persona). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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