MrBlack Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 So really just local media suggesting we've made an offer alongside Juventus... I know there's no point expecting a British reputable site to pick this up as there will be no leaks coming from our end, so it's about as concrete as you can get with us these days. That said, I suspect this is agent game playing. Not sure we'd meet a €50m release clause for an area of the pitch that is less of a priority than two others (second striker and right back. I imagine we'll also spend a fair bit on a backup keeper (upwards of 10m), and not sure we've got the wiggle room in FFP to put 50m on a rotation centre back... Unless the plan is to move Konsa to right back and there are doubts over Carlos, but I feel that's unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, MrBlack said: for an area of the pitch that is less of a priority than two others (second striker and right back. Biggest problem is that we don’t know the budget and don’t know what Emery’s priorities are. To us it seems obvious the positions you say but Emery may feel a ball playing CB is key to his system going forwards and it maybe in his top two or three priorities. We just don’t know! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Another thread to join messi and ugarte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: Biggest problem is that we don’t know the budget and don’t know what Emery’s priorities are. To us it seems obvious the positions you say but Emery may feel a ball playing CB is key to his system going forwards and it maybe in his top two or three priorities. We just don’t know! Indeed. If the budget is bigger than I think, then he's exactly the calibre of player I'd hope we're targeting. But if we didn't then spend 50m+ on a second striker also I think we'd be prioritising the wrong area. Our defence was very solid. And, whilst we had no problems scoring 1 goal, we were comfortably the lowest scoring team in the top half. But we were creating chances, so it's realistically the finishing end of the spectrum that needs the most investment for me. Be interesting to see it all play out whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted June 6, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: Another thread to join messi and ugarte Don't knock the Messi thread, that has substance. Emi's BBQs are serious business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The drop off in quality after Mings Konsa and Carlos is massive, this would be great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 If the salaries on offer are similar, how could you not want to play under Emery already knowing how incredible he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: If the salaries on offer are similar, how could you not want to play under Emery already knowing how incredible he is? Especially when the alternative seems to be a scandal ridden Juventus, or staying at the club that isn't as good as it was before Emery left it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: If the salaries on offer are similar, how could you not want to play under Emery already knowing how incredible he is? Depends, there was one player - can't find it now - who said he absolutely loves Emery but couldn't handle something like a third or fourth season under him because of the intensity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: If the salaries on offer are similar, how could you not want to play under Emery already knowing how incredible he is? Crazy to think we’re in a better place than teams like juventus, it’s great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I’ve never seen him play so can’t comment on how good a player he is, but I would be sad to see Konsa and Mings broken up if we do sign a starting CB. I know we’ve got Carlos to come back in too, so there will be rotation, but adding a fourth seems like it could lead to some disappointment to me. Who knows though, maybe we will see some outgoings in defence as Emery makes his mark. I trust him to do the right thing and make us better, I just really like Mings and Konsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Unless we have a CB from our youths ready to step up, I feel with just Mings, Konsa and Carlos we are a little bit light. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: I’ve never seen him play so can’t comment on how good a player he is, but I would be sad to see Konsa and Mings broken up if we do sign a starting CB. I know we’ve got Carlos to come back in too, so there will be rotation, but adding a fourth seems like it could lead to some disappointment to me. Who knows though, maybe we will see some outgoings in defence as Emery makes his mark. I trust him to do the right thing and make us better, I just really like Mings and Konsa. We did see Konsa moved to right back late in the season to accommodate Carlos coming in at centre back. Many had suggested he might do this based on what he did with Foyth before, but to see it actually happen does give credence to the idea that might happen more permanently. Especially if either Carlos is expected to be back fully functional and/or we sign someone new. I didn't think it was logical, given Konsa's age (Foyth was 21 when he got converted), but looking at how much we need to spend, and how many more games we're likely to play i am thinking more and more that we'll use Konsa as a right back more than a CB next season. Edited June 6, 2023 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2023 Mings can't complain if Torres comes in, it's competition for his place, as it should be for every place in the first 11. Then we are set at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted June 6, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2023 Torres would be starting next to Mings, not instead of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I said he’s one our scouts have definitely identified, as he was mentioned when SG came in. Emery loves him as a player and will know his strengths. 2 out of 4 CBs of Torres, Mings, Konsa, Carlos is pretty good squad, as Mings said competition for places will just push the others to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Might also mean the Konsa at RB idea has legs and maybe we wont be in market for a replacement for Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Torres would be starting next to Mings, not instead of. I hate the idea of two left footed centre backs playing together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Torres would be starting next to Mings, not instead of. I can't see it. How many dual left-footed centre back partnerships are out there? Coaches don't like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just now, IrishVilla10 said: I hate the idea of two left footed centre backs playing together Yet for years it's been commonplace to have two right footed centre backs!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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