Genie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, KentVillan said: I feel much the same way about Oasis as I do about Jack Grealish. Good memories, massive words removed, why is the thread being bumped, I won’t look, ok **** it I’ll have a look I bumped it as there was a live show on Channel 5 last night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: I bumped it as there was a live show on Channel 5 last night. Thanks for the warning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: I bumped it as there was a live show on Channel 5 last night. Yeah, I watched that. Came to the same conclusion as always that they are total nobs and Blur much better in retrospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: I feel much the same way about Oasis as I do about Jack Grealish. Good memories, massive words removed, why is the thread being bumped, I won’t look, ok **** it I’ll have a look Don’t look back… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: Yeah, I watched that. Came to the same conclusion as always that they are total nobs and Blur much better in retrospect. Total nobs yep. Blur we’re good, but not better imo. Like a slightly more beige version with less iconic tracks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, Genie said: Total nobs yep. Blur we’re good, but not better imo. Like a slightly more beige version with less iconic tracks. Beige, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: Beige, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: Beige, yeah I think Oasis are the absolute definition of 'beige' in musical terms - generic, lad rock rubbish. They aren't fit to lace Blur's boots in term of musical innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Blur were the more creative art school version. Cracking band. But I’ll be honest, now in my mid-30s, I love it when Oasis come on the radio. Bangers for long drive to work, brings me back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 The musical innovation debate on music in general is one I never really understood. It’s music, it’s to be enjoyed in the moment, if you enjoy it then great. It’s like pulling a beautiful girl with an amazing body but then rejecting a one night stand because she wasn’t ambitious enough with her career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Genie said: The musical innovation debate on music in general is one I never really understood. This is why you like Oasis There are people who like music and there people who appreciate music in a much greater depth. You are the former. It's not a bad thing, it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Musical innovation is great until you end up with Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino... And I don't mind the idea that oasis were purely a lad band, unfortunately I'll also happily admit that I spent a fair bit of my 20s being a lad...and I wasn't going round my mates house or on the pub juke box putting on the universal or radio heads latest envelope pusher And the reality is part of the continuing success of oasis is no one has been able to do it like them since, 30 years and no one has come close to doing what they did hence why Liam is still pulling in huge numbers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: And the reality is part of the continuing success of oasis is no one has been able to do it like them since, 30 years and no one has come close to doing what they did hence why Liam is still pulling in huge numbers You don't think Kasabian or Arctic Monkeys have come remotely close to emulating the success of Oasis? I can see both headlining Glastonbury again 20 years after their first hits. Tranquillity Base is an abomination, I'll give you that. Edited March 13, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: You don't think Kasabian or Arctic Monkeys have come remotely close to emulating the success of Oasis? No they haven't Neither could do a Knebworth even now Arctic Monkeys may actually eventually do it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I'm generally surprised they haven't reformed still. Checked and summer 2009 was last time they did a tour of stadium shows and then broke up afterwards. Guess there's real animosity between the Gallaghers rather than they just had "creative differences" and wanted to go seperate ways for a spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: And I don't mind the idea that oasis were purely a lad band, unfortunately I'll also happily admit that I spent a fair bit of my 20s being a lad...and I wasn't going round my mates house or on the pub juke box putting on the universal or radio heads latest envelope pusher I must be close to your age as this is how I remember the mid 90's. I was about 20 and the music was great, so many great bands being played on the radio. I still listen to Oasis and Shed Seven most days even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, sidcow said: You don't think Kasabian or Arctic Monkeys have come remotely close to emulating the success of Oasis? I can see both headlining Glastonbury again 20 years after their first hits. Tranquillity Base is an abomination, I'll give you that. I think the Artic Monkeys came close with their debut. In the sense of “who’s this new band?” that Definitely Maybe had. But it wasn’t followed up with a “Morning Glory”, or if you like an “Ok Computer” sized record. But it’s something less tangible than playing Knebworth or selling 10 million albums or whatever. Oasis had more of a ubiquity than the Artics did/do. Basically, my mum would be able to see a picture Noel or Liam and recognise them. I could probably say “someday you will find me…” and she’d be able to tell me the next line. She wouldn’t be able to do that with a picture of Alex Turner. She wouldn’t be able to do that with an Artic Monkeys album track. And definitely not with Kasabian. I actually think Coldplay were closer to that crossover thing, where people who don’t particularly care for the music, still recognise it and form have some sort of opinion of it. I don’t feel a band has had that since. It’s not an original thought and it’s one even Noel puts forward, but they were pretty much the last big band before the internet. I don’t quite know how or why that affects things, or if it’s just a coincidence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 I really feel if Toploader had pushed that bit harder they could have been as big as Oasis 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I think the Artic Monkeys came close with their debut. In the sense of “who’s this new band?” that Definitely Maybe had. But it wasn’t followed up with a “Morning Glory”, or if you like an “Ok Computer” sized record. But it’s something less tangible than playing Knebworth or selling 10 million albums or whatever. Oasis had more of a ubiquity than the Artics did/do. Basically, my mum would be able to see a picture Noel or Liam and recognise them. I could probably say “someday you will find me…” and she’d be able to tell me the next line. She wouldn’t be able to do that with a picture of Alex Turner. She wouldn’t be able to do that with an Artic Monkeys album track. And definitely not with Kasabian. I actually think Coldplay were closer to that crossover thing, where people who don’t particularly care for the music, still recognise it and form have some sort of opinion of it. I don’t feel a band has had that since. It’s not an original thought and it’s one even Noel puts forward, but they were pretty much the last big band before the internet. I don’t quite know how or why that affects things, or if it’s just a coincidence. I think it's more that popular music was so dogshit. All Euro Techno and Stock Aitkin Waterman. Then there was more underground special interest clubby music. The return to guitar based bands was well overdue and obviously something the youth had been crying out for, vut also sounded like "proper" music that older people had affinity with. It felt like a revolution was underway (when really it was just a reinvention) Kasabian and Arctics were not far enough away from those days for it to reel like a revolution (only 10 years further along) although as a man in my mid 30s I think Arctics made me feel like a youngster discovering something probably even more than those earlier bands did. I have a strong feeling a new revolution is needed because outside looking in chart music is absolutely diobolical. Maybe Wet Leg will kick start a few new bands though my 18 Yr old daughter had no idea who they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I really feel if Toploader had pushed that bit harder they could have been as big as Oasis You Mok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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