maqroll Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Annoying that we have such a crap points haul at this stage of the season when so many teams above us aren't really grabbing Europe by the scruff of the neck. This should have been the year to get back into Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Need Fulham, Brighton and Brentford to all lose form and us to go on a run of good form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just three points off of Liverpool now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 It’s on lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ferguson1 Posted January 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2023 25 points after 19 games. Emery has helped us obtain 13 points already. It’s looking very decent but still think we’ll finish between 8th and 10th place. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 Okay now don't Panic Lets just chill and let the drama unfold over the weekend. Win next week and then look at the table.@tomsky_11 whats the cum graph saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 13/01/2023 at 01:17, VillaChris said: I've been hugely impressed with them in most of the games I've seen this season so we certainly can't act like finishing above them is a foregone conclusion, as it stands they're 9 points clear of us and fully deserve to be. Think newly promoted Leeds and Sheffield United in recent seasons both got to 55-56 points and Fulham look every bit as good as them currently. Only query is will their intensity drop off once they hit 40 points? We'll see. Tomorrow is a real must win just to make rest of season interesting. Beat Leeds and they have Newcastle away which they could easily lose and suddenly they're back in range and still to come to VP. A draw is better, as Newcastle could still be catchable if their form gets worse. Spurs and Chelsea are the main threats with Newcastle. We need them to lose points more than the others, as others won’t have the consistency. Fulham are good but a lot of their wins they had some luck with their side. Palace had two players with red cards, Chelsea one and us at our last game under Gerrard. Can’t remember other wins but I think they’ll start declining. For now let them take points from other opponents and keep it tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Pretty promising that we had three months of Gerrard and yet are on course still for 50 points. Given the general increase since Emery has come in I think 55 points or whatever we finished on in 20/21 is a realistic target. Need to get the performances levels up but certainly can win another 5 games at VP and we're currently 2 from 2 away under Unai and next week is another winnable away game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 If we can get around 52 to 55 points then that would be a really good season. I wanted 10th and a cup run so now we need to bust a good to make sure we got 8th/9th. Huge ask to finish top half but it's not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, messi11 said: Okay now don't Panic Lets just chill and let the drama unfold over the weekend. Win next week and then look at the table.@tomsky_11 whats the cum graph saying? Projecting a 55-56 point season. To give an idea of the kind of results required in final 19 games to get to 55 points: - 8 wins, eg. sou LEI eve CRY BOU NFO FUL BHA - 6 draws, eg. whu NEW bre wol TOT lei - 5 losses eg. mnc ARS che mnu liv Edited January 14, 2023 by tomsky_11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, GlobalVillan said: If we can get around 52 to 55 points then that would be a really good season. I wanted 10th and a cup run so now we need to bust a good to make sure we got 8th/9th. Huge ask to finish top half but it's not impossible. We got 25 points from the first half of the season, if we copy that in the second half of the season we end up with 50 points. But all 19 of those matches will be managed by Emery, so it isn’t unreasonable to expect more from the second half of the season. If we continue the same form from the 6 first matches under Emery: (13 points / 6 matches ) * 19 remaining matches = 41 points, giving a total of 66 points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2023 For reference - 21/22 season, 7th - 10th place finished with - West Ham 56 Leicester 52 Brighton 51 Wolves 51 At the halfway point these teams had - West Ham 31 Wolves 28 Brighton 27 Leicester 25 Covid delaying fixtures means that they all reached the 19 game point at different times (which made confirming these points an oh so much more fun task that I willingly and stupidly gave myself). Anyway, nothing remarkable about the above, but having the same mid season points tally as what proved to be 8th place Leicester is encouraging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 We could do with a Chelsea-Palace draw this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 We're only half way through the season. Let's hope we make a couple of additions this window and stop having our players injured. I think Chelsea will sort themselves out and get top 7. What Fulham do for the second half of the season is unknown. If Brighton lose to Liverpool I'd be hopeful of us getting past them and Brentford. So 7-9th is somewhere I think we'll finish. Tbh I'd just love a top 10 finish and 55 or more points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Nothing really matters this season. If we can get top half then that's fantastic. Next year is when the expectations should rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Nothing really matters this season. If we can get top half then that's fantastic. Next year is when the expectations should rise. It’s all to play for we quicker we get into Europe the better. More money better players, progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 10 hours ago, ferguson1 said: 25 points after 19 games. Emery has helped us obtain 13 points already. It’s looking very decent but still think we’ll finish between 8th and 10th place. Would be very very happy with this after Gerrard's horrific start to the season. Puts us into the shop window for good summer recruits to see our potential and ambition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 hours ago, viivvaa66 said: We got 25 points from the first half of the season, if we copy that in the second half of the season we end up with 50 points. But all 19 of those matches will be managed by Emery, so it isn’t unreasonable to expect more from the second half of the season. If we continue the same form from the 6 first matches under Emery: (13 points / 6 matches ) * 19 remaining matches = 41 points, giving a total of 66 points. I admire the optimism but I think it's dangerously misguided. I believe it is in fact, totally unreasonable to expect that we will win 4 and lose just 1 out of every 6 games, just because that's how we started under him. This is not his side and although he has come in and improved us, we have also been knocked out of 2 cup competitions in that time, one of them at home to a League 2 side. We were poor last night, as we were against Wolves for the most part. That's 3 home games in a row where we haven't been very good. We will get better, of that I am sure, but there's no way we are going to finish on 66 points and I think it's wise to temper the expectations. As I say, 52 to 55 points is where I see us and that would be an improvement. Next season, however, is a different story. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Nothing really matters this season. If we can get top half then that's fantastic. Next year is when the expectations should rise. I feel like we’ve been saying this since we got promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: I feel like we’ve been saying this since we got promoted. To some extent. But then we did Deano's 2nd season. To be fair, expectations always have to be reigned in when a new manager comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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