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6 hours ago, Gompedyret said:

I'm seriously scared of this going into double digits. City wants to top Liverpool doing 9 and Villa is tragically there for the taking, big time.

In some ways, it would be less cruel than what's likely to happen. Jokes aside, there's no chance of a 10-1 or similar catastrophe. As dreadful as many feel we've been defensively, I still believe hugely in Mings and Martinez, and they are simply too competent and professional to let that happen, Gerrard or no Gerrard. We have made things hard for City before. I think the players love us too much to let us down like that.

ManCity 3-2. (It will be 2-2 for a few minutes, followed by an excruciating painful Haaland coup de grace, if I may quote Del Boy?).  

(A Haaland coup de grace sounds like a fancy side dish.) @BOF

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I’m contemplating not going tomorrow, i know it sounds fickle but I genuinely can’t be bothered to drive, park up and walk the mile or so to the ground and sit there and watch City have 80% possession and beat us comfortably. I’m not one to stay to end if we are getting battered, if we are losing 3-0 I will generally leave, tomorrow this could be before HT. Just feels like a lot of effort at the minute for what might be 45 mins of football. Does anyone else feel the same or am I just being a knob 🙂

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25 minutes ago, Hughes said:

I think this may be much more close than what many think. We will likely lose but I think maybe a well fought 0-2 loss with City scoring early and very late. Oh, the joy of being a Villa fan.... 

It's there such a thing?

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4 hours ago, ferguson1 said:

Here’s what I think will loosely happen, we’ll try and ruff them up in the first 5/10 minutes. McGinn, Mings or Cash will take a booking in that frenetic opening minutes, the crowd will be loud, behind the team and moaning at the ref.

Approx 15 minutes in we’ll concede the first goal from City’s pretty much first real attack. It’ll be a calamitous defensive error or fortuitous deflection. A few crowd noises will then be heard of “Gerrard Out”. We’ll then be all over the place for 30 minutes and they’ll look to score two or three more before halftime. However, we’ll somehow hold out. Last ditch tackles and some poor finishing let us off the hook. The whistle will blow for halftime and the booing will be a little louder.

The same eleven that started will return and again for 5 minutes we’ll look ok, maybe even gain a corner, and the Holte End will be on their feet, but wait? Our corner kick specialist is on the bench, damn it. It comes to nothing.

City then grab a second from a swift break and our heads drop. City make three changes but the quality of their game doesn’t drop. Gerrard will ponder a change or two and on 60 minutes he’s decisive by bringing on Ings, Luiz and possibly Buendia.  The crowd start singing “you don’t know what you’re doing”. City score again and very quickly another. 4-0 down with 15 minutes to play, then whoever took our first booking of the day for us will make a “I’ve had enough” challenge and get sent off, with a second yellow.

The crowd become hostile and our dugout are getting absolute pelters from the fans behind. Gerrard sits looking pensive and is ready to say “it’s on me”. City score a fifth in the dying moments and that’s it. Game over.

All in all a pretty miserable day. Gerrard will say the usual nonsense about the gulf in quality but that he’ll work tirelessly to put it right during the week ahead.

It won’t be far off this I reckon. UTV

Ooh I can’t wait! 
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4 hours ago, ferguson1 said:

Here’s what I think will loosely happen, we’ll try and ruff them up in the first 5/10 minutes. McGinn, Mings or Cash will take a booking in that frenetic opening minutes, the crowd will be loud, behind the team and moaning at the ref.

Approx 15 minutes in we’ll concede the first goal from City’s pretty much first real attack. It’ll be a calamitous defensive error or fortuitous deflection. A few crowd noises will then be heard of “Gerrard Out”. We’ll then be all over the place for 30 minutes and they’ll look to score two or three more before halftime. However, we’ll somehow hold out. Last ditch tackles and some poor finishing let us off the hook. The whistle will blow for halftime and the booing will be a little louder.

The same eleven that started will return and again for 5 minutes we’ll look ok, maybe even gain a corner, and the Holte End will be on their feet, but wait? Our corner kick specialist is on the bench, damn it. It comes to nothing.

City then grab a second from a swift break and our heads drop. City make three changes but the quality of their game doesn’t drop. Gerrard will ponder a change or two and on 60 minutes he’s decisive by bringing on Ings, Luiz and possibly Buendia.  The crowd start singing “you don’t know what you’re doing”. City score again and very quickly another. 4-0 down with 15 minutes to play, then whoever took our first booking of the day for us will make a “I’ve had enough” challenge and get sent off, with a second yellow.

The crowd become hostile and our dugout are getting absolute pelters from the fans behind. Gerrard sits looking pensive and is ready to say “it’s on me”. City score a fifth in the dying moments and that’s it. Game over.

All in all a pretty miserable day. Gerrard will say the usual nonsense about the gulf in quality but that he’ll work tirelessly to put it right during the week ahead.

It won’t be far off this I reckon. UTV

Pretty realistic, except it won't take 15 minutes for City's first real attack. Maybe 2.

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3 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said:

Konsa is our only centre back who has a chance to live with him for pace, won't be able for his strength however. Chambers and Bednarek have no chance in either department. We are doomed no matter what.

This is a situation where we really could have used Diego Carlos...

As well as he played against City last time, I don't think he'll play Chambers for the reason you mentioned and because he just plain doesn't rate him. My suspicion is that he'd play Konsa and Bednarek against anyone else because he wants to use his new toy to send a message to Mings and because he still rates Konsa for some strange reason, but I think that Halaand will force his hand...he'll play Konsa to deal with his pace and Mings to deal with his height.

 

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What I think SG will do...

EmiM

Cash Konsa Mings Digne

McGinn Kamara Dendoncker

Buendia Coutinho

Watkins

Why the Christmas tree? Because that's what he used in the 3-2 last year. The only changes here from that match are Konsa for Chambers (see above) and Dendoncker for Ramsey (he has to use at least one new signing, and it gives us more steel on defense, which we'll need).

It's not a bad lineup considering the opponent. My only change would be to put in Dougie for McGinn (McGinn just isn't playing well, and you need Doug's superior technical skill against City), but we know that won't happen. While I'd normally prefer Ings, I like Watkins in this case because we have to play on the counter and Watkins is good at holding up the ball.

 

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1 hour ago, WHY said:

I’m contemplating not going tomorrow, i know it sounds fickle but I genuinely can’t be bothered to drive, park up and walk the mile or so to the ground and sit there and watch City have 80% possession and beat us comfortably. I’m not one to stay to end if we are getting battered, if we are losing 3-0 I will generally leave, tomorrow this could be before HT. Just feels like a lot of effort at the minute for what might be 45 mins of football. Does anyone else feel the same or am I just being a knob 🙂

Ur not being a knob at all; I totally get where you're coming from. I don't go to games now and I am an armchair fan but will be uttering phrases like :

"and there it is......."

"surprised it took so long..." 

"they're taking the mick here...."

  "this could be double figures if citeh are anyway arsed..."  

"....come on, let us score ONE as a consolation.....please !!!"

...and so on. Citeh took the piss last time at home - don't think we got out of our half in the first 10 mins and this time they have that tank  (bloody fast tank !) Haaland now.

God help us. 0-4 if we're lucky.

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Just now, mottaloo said:

Ur not being a knob at all; I totally get where you're coming from. I don't go to games now and I am an armchair fan but will be uttering phrases like :

"and there it is......."

"surprised it took so long..." 

"they're taking the mick here...."

  "this could be double figures if citeh are anyway arsed..."  

"....come on, let us score ONE as a consolation.....please !!!"

...and so on. Citeh took the piss last time at home - don't think we got out of our half in the first 10 mins and this time they have that tank  (bloody fast tank !) Haaland now.

God help us. 0-4 if we're lucky.

Yeah, I was at the last game and thought we haven’t been out of our half yet, think it was something like 12 minutes when we did. To be fair we nearly nicked a draw in the end. That was then though and we are awful and they are scoring 4 or more in virtually every game they play. I am a football fan in general though and if I go it would be mainly just to see Haaland play. 

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First time in five years of being a season ticket holder where I am also considering  not making the trip. The three hour drive there and back is one thing….but the sight of us holding on, scurrying left and right in two blocks of 5 and 4 just to keep the score respectable……is not one I can summon much enthusiasm for if I’m honest. 
At least under the old regime, I had faith and respect for the manager as a person and knew he was trying his level best to come up with something that might work, might counter the opposition, might play to our strengths. At least then I had Hope the night before. Even when that smacked 6 past us the other year, I didn’t leave early, I stayed because there was a collective sense of being in it together and they were getting the best effort and  sense out of the squad. There was a togetherness in adversity or in good times that made the journey and the game fun. 

not feeling that in any way at all today😥

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