Marka Ragnos Posted August 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Icarium said: When has Gerrard shown any evidence of learning anything from previous poor performances? To be precise, it’s the whole squad that has to improve. How do you measure “evidence” of improvement with any football manager? There’s only one way, and I imagine you know that, right? If SG starts winning consistently as he did with Rangers, we will say he’s learning. So I guess we’ll see in the next three weeks. Or we won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2022 I'm at one of those points where every post on here by everyone sounds sort of the same to me -- and sorry, nothing personal, as you lot are alright. But it's like smoking meth, where the mouth works ten times faster than the brain and words just stop mattering. The season on the pitch needs to catch up with the discussion of the season on the pitch. I won't feel comfortable until we get a win. But maybe it's just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 This will either be a bore draw or we'll lose after once again having the lions share of possession, doing sweet **** all with it against a back 3 and conceding on the counter to one of Demarai Gray or Dwight McNeil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: To be precise, it’s the whole squad that has to improve. How do you measure “evidence” of improvement with any football manager? There’s only one way, and I imagine you know that, right? If SG starts winning consistently as he did with Rangers, we will say he’s learning. So I guess we’ll see in the next three weeks. Or we won’t. To put it simply the managers tactics, team selection and off the field management all need to improve.. massively. That will see an improvement on the pitch and win us points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nicho Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 There will be boos if we lost this 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2022 Everton are taylor made for us, they won't sit in and defend with numbers but haven't got the top end talent to petrify us at the other end. This should be a win, even with that same line up from the weekend....but what does that really tell us? How have we improved from last season? Its the same problems against the same kinds of opposition that we have to improve, im not sure a routine win against these will have us any closer. In saying that fail to win here and we are going backwards. Lot of pressure on the result here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Quite glad Big Dunc isnt in charge for this one, we were quite lucky to get out of their place with a 1-0 win last season....having him in charge, geeing up the team before proceeding to kick the **** out of us in front of a nervous and tense VP would definitely get the crowd on the teams back sooner rather than later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smg Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 Not even played a home game this season and already the talk is about booing the players. I’m old enough to remember when the support got behind the team in an attempt to help them achieve success not berate them and diminish confidence levels further. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, smg said: Not even played a home game this season and already the talk is about booing the players. I’m old enough to remember when the support got behind the team in an attempt to help them achieve success not berate them and diminish confidence levels further. I’m not necessarily saying we should boo after a bother loss. For what it’s worth I think it would be aimed at the manager not players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 It’s going to be a shit game in that heat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Nicho said: I’m not necessarily saying we should boo after a bother loss. For what it’s worth I think it would be aimed at the manager not players. You think those on the pitch will make the distinction? I don’t, I think they’ll hate a miserable, toxic atmosphere no matter who it’s aimed at. Everton, the rest of the league and media will love it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted August 10, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 While confidence isn't exactly high, what I am expecting is a reaction. That's the least we should expect. Obviously I'm hoping for some small team selection tweaks too, and that's also to be expected after such a disappointing defeat. I'm not even completely ruling out seeing Mings line up alongside Carlos, but I think it's more likely if there's a change it'll be Chambers, which would also be fine. I'm a little more hopeful for this one than I was in the immediate aftermath of the Bournemouth shocker. But it's all relative. I still wouldn't be surprised by a completely toothless performance and a disappointing 1-0 defeat. If we go into @ Palace, West Ham, Arsenal, City & Leicester with zero points on the board then Gerrard has a very big task on his hands. I predict a nervy 1-0 win for us. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On a scale of 1-10, one being vanilla extract and 10 being nuclear waste, how toxic does Villa Park get if the line-up is bizarre, Everton are leading and Villa are awful up to the half time whistle? I'm going seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: On a scale of 1-10, one being vanilla extract and 10 being nuclear waste, how toxic does Villa Park get if the line-up is bizarre, Everton are leading and Villa are awful up to the half time whistle? I'm going seven. In that circumstance I’ll be going inside to inhale a boiling hot pie and enjoy the burn instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nicho said: In that circumstance I’ll be going inside to inhale a boiling hot pie and enjoy the burn instead So you're a 7.8? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wict01 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: On a scale of 1-10, one being vanilla extract and 10 being nuclear waste, how toxic does Villa Park get if the line-up is bizarre, Everton are leading and Villa are awful up to the half time whistle? I'm going seven. I'll push the boat out to an 8. I'm pretty staunchly anti-Gerrard at this point, but for the 90 mins on Saturday I'll back him and the players because I always want my team to win. I can't say the same for some of the people around me though, sometimes it feels like the first misplaced pass of a game is too much for some of them to bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, wict01 said: I'll push the boat out to an 8. I'm pretty staunchly anti-Gerrard at this point, but for the 90 mins on Saturday I'll back him and the players because I always want my team to win. I can't say the same for some of the people around me though, sometimes it feels like the first misplaced pass of a game is too much for some of them to bear. An early goal conceded and I think it will get tense then us struggle to keep position and working Pickford will lead to boos and empty seats If he starts Buendia and dropas Konsa, Coutinho and McGinn it might be tolerable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Coutinho will start, Watkins to replace Ings, maybe Luiz for Ramsey but thats it unless Chambers come in for Konsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Martinez, KKH, Chambers, Mings, Digne, Buendia, Sanson, Kamara, Ramsey Bailey Archer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) A solid performance full of effort amd application along with at least a draw and in the context of 2 games at the start of a new season then I can’t get upset. A loss of any kind however and he continues to be on borrowed time. Edited August 10, 2022 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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