Tomaszk Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, useless said: Assistant managers take training sessions all the time, that's their job, and of course the players are going to have praised him to the max, they will do the same to whoever we bring in to replace him. "First time in my career" Emi said. Where a guy not the manager was so at the forefront. Emi has been in England for 10+ years and played for about 7 clubs so he's been around. Gerrard liked him and rated him, this is far from an ideal scenario is my point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayVTID Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Not convinced by the suggestion that Gerrard would promote either Danks or McPhee to assistant. They were both Smith hires and Gerrard's only been working with them for ~6 months. I have no doubt he'll have known Beale leaving was coming. Beale said in his QPR interview that "it's been a long time coming" and that he was "waiting for the right project". I think Gerrard will already have a few names in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 How about michael carrick? Was getting rave reviews at united before he left them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: If this is the case, What was the point of Alex Ferguson? I’ve told this story before, so I won’t make it long. Many years ago my Dad took a load of school kids to BMH, Ron Saunders was the manager. Brian Little was the first person Dad bumped into and he took Dad to meet Ron Saunders who was in his office. They then went outside and Ron stopped training and got them to play a match for the kids. My point is Saunders wasn’t taking training and this was back in the 70s. I believe that the club was aware from day one that Mike Beale had ambitions to step up to be a head coach/manager at some point. The time scale may even haves been known. If that’s the case then knowing how the club is run now, I’d doubt that we haven’t already got candidates lined up. I’m sure Beale is an excellent coach but he’s surely not irreplaceable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: If what is the case? 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: How anyone can watch this and not think this is very bad for us blows my mind. This guy led training every single day. Taking meetings! What's the point of Gerrard again? To attract players? Hope he can attract a very very good coach as well. There’s been plenty of extremely successful Managers that don’t take even training, Gerrard actually participates in training though, Beale brought ideas to the table , tactics and some training ideas, what’s worrying about that? What would be the point of an assistant if the head coach did all the work on the training ground ? To hand bibs out and tell the lads to run around the pitch 5 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: There’s been plenty of extremely successful Managers that don’t take even training, Gerrard actually participates in training though, Beale brought ideas to the table , tactics and some training ideas, what’s worrying about that? What would be the point of an assistant if the head coach did all the work on the training ground ? To hand bibs out and tell the lads to run around the pitch 5 times? Hopefully he finds someone else he trusts to lead every training session and team meeting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 This recruitment could be difficult. If it’s true Beale was responsible for everything from daily coaching and developing the team’s style to tactics and gameplans, we need to hire someone who more or less is a head coach. But that person won’t get the title or money that goes with such an important position. Instead the new person will be expected to stand in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 In the immortal words of Dr Frankenstein "We need a unknown coach with amazing communication skills so we can just transplant Gerrard's head onto his...problem solved" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: To hand bibs out and tell the lads to run around the pitch 5 times? So you’re saying they’ll get Dean Smith back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Good job this has happened early rather than August as was case last year. We do have a month to approach people at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaHatesMe Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 This is a Venn diagram of VillaTalk posters who think Steven Gerrard is a terrible manager who didn't do well enough and VillaTalk posters who think we're doomed because the person who was in charge of tactics and training for the team that's been terrible under Steven Gerrard is leaving. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Always hard to call with stuff like this, so many coaches that aren't widely known so there's no obvious names you can point to. Saw Mike Garrity get mentioned by a couple of folk which could be a shout. Had an interesting career path of working at Molde and with China under Lippi and Cannavaro in between his current role as assistant of Blackpool and early work at Liverpool alongside a certain Michael Beale. Ian Cathro is out of work as well and has always been a well-regarded assistant. He's largely worked under Nuno Espirito Santo though so might just follow him into his next role. Would have worked with MacPhee previously also so there could be some kind of link there. Edited June 2, 2022 by Indigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 I'll leave it to SG to worry about.......I have no idea about Assistant managers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted June 2, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2022 Do people ever think that Gerrard had a lot of trust in Beale, hence why he allowed him to take a lot of the training etc. Its Gerard’s style of play and how he wants the team to play. I’m sure there’s a list of 3-4 names of potential asst managers to come in who suit Gerrards style and will fit into the coaching team. Beale was rumoured to be close to leaving prior to Gerrards appointment at Villa, everyone knew this was coming and the club have the next asst manager ready in the wings once they negotiate their terms/release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, TRO said: I'll leave it to SG to worry about.......I have no idea about Assistant managers. The whole assistant thing seems pretty overhyped to me tbh. I never quite understood the jizzfest that followed Beale. Gerrard is literally the manager… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Spoony said: The whole assistant thing seems pretty overhyped to me tbh. I never quite understood the jizzfest that followed Beale. Gerrard is literally the manager… I remember when Buvac left Liverpool and it was the end of Klopp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 What’s Martin Laursen up to these days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted June 2, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 Gerrard has recruited a good assistant manager before, a fella that went on to manage QPR I believe, I think he can do it again. I suspect he's got a pretty extensive list of contacts in the game and even in the interim, it's probably worth remembering that he's got a bloke on his coaching staff who is an experienced assistant manager and has managed a very big football club himself for a short period 11 years ago. It'll be a disruption, but football management is a group effort nowadays; analysts, coaches, physios, the whole kit and caboodle - Beale is by many accounts a very good assistant manager and someone who is excellent on the training ground, but I have a lot of faith in us finding someone else who fits the bill. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 9 hours ago, useless said: I see Salifou has been taking his coaching badges, it's said that whilst with us and playing for reserves he played a big part in some of our young players at the time such as Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Baker, Weimann, and so onl, a sort of player coach/mentor type figure. Apparently still in touch with Ashley Young as well. Is he actually taking his badges or are you on a windup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 He did an interview a few months back where he said he's taking his badges and is still in contact with Ashley Young, Reo-Coker, and Isaiah Osbourne. Not sure how Salifou taking his badges would be any different, or any more likely to wind people up, than any other ex-footballer taking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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