WooJung Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Looking at the replay, Martinez totally dropped him in it with the pass. Although this isn't false, it must be said that Bouba had at least two chances to either clear the ball or pass it to the left. He still gets the largest part of the blame for that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 One of the frustrating parts is the timing of the mistakes. You should never concede just after scoring and just before half time. While the mistake for their first was more obvious and in many ways worse, the choice to dribble in midfield with 30 seconds before the whistle is even more baffling to me. There was absolutely nothing to be gained and everything to lose from that. Hope this is part of the learning curve for him because on every other occasion he's been outstanding for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 A bad day for him. And he will suffer for it with 25 hours of one on one video analysis. But i am sure he will learn from his mistake. He is a clever player. He is still the high quality player we know and love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I think he got over confident with the level of his performances. That's what cost the first goal. After that his game was affected by that mistake. He will learn from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, The_Steve said: Rodgers admitted that they set out to target Bouba and it worked. He is talking Bouba made the errors himself bit because of anything leicester did. After he made that error it effected him and he was just shit most of the match. Rodgers trying to take credit for our own mistakes. Thats the reason we lost because of very poor indivdual errors nothing leicester did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2023 If we'd lost today through Martinez punting 3 clearances into the back of Mings head and bouncing into the net, Rodgers would tell you he targeted the goalkeeper to score own goals. Kamara has had a bad day at the office. That's it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: He is talking Bouba made the errors himself bit because of anything leicester did. After he made that error it effected him and he was just shit most of the match. Rodgers trying to take credit for our own mistakes. Thats the reason we lost because of very poor indivdual errors nothing leicester did Well, they pressed him mate. They did that. They made him panic and concede possession and they fought hard in the tackle to win it off him when he conceded it for the goal. If we did that to them, you’d say “ great villa pressure “ Yes of course he could of handled it better but to say Leicester did nothing for that goal is somewhat inaccurate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Well, they pressed him mate. They did that. They made him panic and concede possession and they fought hard in the tackle to win it off him when he conceded it for the goal. If we did that to them, you’d say “ great villa pressure “ Yes of course he could of handled it better but to say Leicester did nothing for that goal is somewhat inaccurate. The 1st goal was because a shit pass by martinez then kamara had time to just hoof it but theb tried to play it in the back **** it up and then the leicester player tackles him and easy goal. It was more shit play by kamara than the tactics. Any team could have done that to us with sucidal errors like kamara did today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: The 1st goal was because a shit pass by martinez then kamara had time to just hoof it but theb tried to play it in the back **** it up and then the leicester player tackles him and easy goal. It was more shit play by kamara than the tactics. Any team could have done that to us with sucidal errors like kamara did today Just saying - Dewsbury-Hall still had to make the tackle and it was a fine one too. It was horrendous from Martinez and Kamara but Leicester didn’t not do anything for that goal. That’s not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I thought first goal was more of a mistake from Kamara than from Martinez. He had enough time and space to sort it out. The other goal was probably a foul, and we were high enough up the pitch to deal with it anyway. Don't really blame him for that one. Ultimately he's been class for us this season, and no point in dwelling on a couple of mistakes. We go again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 bad game and the defence fell apart, tells a story doesn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted February 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2023 He was targeted today and it worked a treat as he was caught on the ball a couple of times leading to goals. A pretty obvious tactic in hindsight as he often does the heavy lifting in carrying the ball out from the back for us. We could do with a few more ball players so we aren’t so reliant on him making him an easy target. He also needs to learn when to make the safety pass but no doubt he’ll learn a lot from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Just saying - Dewsbury-Hall still had to make the tackle and it was a fine one too. It was horrendous from Martinez and Kamara but Leicester didn’t not do anything for that goal. That’s not true. My point though johnny it wasnt the tactics rodgers was alluding to, it was our own shit play that gifted the 1st goal. You can say the same about 2nd and 4th too. Some absolutely woeful defensive indicdual mistakes. You rarely see the top sides make 3 like we have today. For me it was totally unacceptable When do you see sours making three individual mistakes like we did today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: My point though johnny it wasnt the tactics rodgers was alluding to, it was our own shit play that gifted the 1st goal. You can say the same about 2nd and 4th too. Some absolutely woeful defensive indicdual mistakes. You rarely see the top sides make 3 like we have today. For me it was totally unacceptable When do you see sours making three individual mistakes like we did today? I agree with you yes - poor from Villa. Think we’ve come to a point where he knows the players that have the ability to play his way - and the ones who don’t. He has to know by now surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, Johnnyp said: I agree with you yes - poor from Villa. Think we’ve come to a point where he knows the players that have the ability to play his way - and the ones who don’t. He has to know by now surely. Absolutely agree. Today demonstrated which players cannot play this way and i expect they will leave in the summer or be backup players next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2023 Burn him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 4 hours ago, KentVillan said: I thought first goal was more of a mistake from Kamara than from Martinez. He had enough time and space to sort it out. Agreed. He beat the first man and then had a chance to get rid of the ball. Even if he had hoofed it, it would have been better than trying to beat the other two. Kamara may not be getting much attention in the press yet, but you have to think that opposing managers are wise enough to realize what we know: He's good and we rely on him. They're going to start targeting him. That said, targeting him will leave others open. With Dougie together with him in the double pivot and with capable fullbacks, we simply need to generate enough options that they can't afford to overload on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted February 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2023 He was targeted yesterday by Leicester, they knew he is often the release ball when under pressure at the back and they had a player onto him straight away. If he had of moved the ball quicker, then two of the goals don't happen. Not entirely his fault, but we need to be smarter to beat these traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 If managers are working out how important he is in our system and keep targeting him we could be in a big of bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, LondonLax said: If managers are working out how important he is in our system and keep targeting him we could be in a big of bother. Then we need Emery to come up with a plan to deal with that. It’s why we pay him the big bucks. Ultimately we still scored two, could have scored more and on another day those mistakes wouldn’t have happened or they wouldn’t convert the chances. Our game plan for the City and Arsenal games will be completely different, although we will likely lose those anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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