duke313 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, IrishVilla10 said: Depends on what you think of the fact he wanted to go, I thought he had every right to leave. So wouldn’t have wanted to potentially bench him for 5 months He did have every right to leave, as does any player, but the club also have the right to say no. It's now left us in a situation were we will have to play Young or Chrisene in the next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, duke313 said: Against his will? He's not a slave. Players ask to leave clubs all the time doesn't mean they leave right away, we could just have said no and sold him in the summer. We have no idea the terms Newcastle offered. If they've come in with a £5m loan fee and a £15m transfer fee if they stay up to make it permanent the board and Gerrard may have figured they wouldn't get half that if he spent the 2nd half of the season on the bench. The gamble then was, "do we get £20m in and rely on Young to continue as backup, or do we keep him to sit on the bench, lose his value and end up possibly not being able to sell him in the summer"? The board obviously decided its better for us to get the money in now and take the risk on Digne not getting injured. Obviously that hasn't worked out, but it's an easy risk to take given we're not really fighting for anything this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, weedman said: We have no idea the terms Newcastle offered. If they've come in with a £5m loan fee and a £15m transfer fee if they stay up to make it permanent the board and Gerrard may have figured they wouldn't get half that if he spent the 2nd half of the season on the bench. The gamble then was, "do we get £20m in and rely on Young to continue as backup, or do we keep him to sit on the bench, lose his value and end up possibly not being able to sell him in the summer"? The board obviously decided its better for us to get the money in now and take the risk on Digne not getting injured. Obviously that hasn't worked out, but it's an easy risk to take given we're not really fighting for anything this season Fair enough. Money was probably more appealing since Digne hasn't really had any injury issues. If Digne is out for the Leicester game, SG has a serious selection issue. Young is too old and can't play 90 minutes bombing up and down the wing, Chrisene hasn't played in the PL before. He will need to change the system slightly or perhaps play Bailey at left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Yeah against his will, then we would have had to listen to people slating Gerrards handling of our former player of the year. A test of his man management skills. Maybe Gerrard bottled that as much as Targett not fighting for his place 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 We are setting the bar low if this is being defended as a good piece of business. Sure Digne has an impressive CV - Has PL experience so you could argue on paper he is a better of calibre of player - Fair enough. He IMO hasn't produced any stand out performances in short time here - and so far has been a bit stop start - and now he is possibly out until the end of the season. Obviously and outright swap for Target would have looked a bad move in light of Dign'es injury - but a loan to a struggling team - who look likely to be competing with for players and places next season - Well lets just say its back fired big time - I don't possibly see how anyone can say anything else - and don't get me started on the 'he wanted to go' excuse. (It reminds of the mid 80's when we hired another rookie manager in Graham Turner - Who sold Steve Foster to Luton for £70k - then paid (from memory) £450k - for the guy foster displaced in the Luton team.) He got crucified for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 hours ago, hippo said: True. But Target isn't injured and Digne is. Bit like saying if we hadn't signed Micah Richards and signed Lewis Dunk instead. Hilarious that it's now Digne's fault he got hit and broke his collar bone and if Targett was here he wouldn't have. Such astonishing rubbish you read on these forums. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Hilarious that it's now Digne's fault he got hit and broke his collar bone and if Targett was here he wouldn't have. Such astonishing rubbish you read on these forums. It's not Dignes Fault. Just saying this far it hasn't been a good move for us. In the harsh world of prem football - whose fault it is won't cut much ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/CcPqh70Iynr/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= maybe not injured for the season? Not sure if this will embed like a tweet but it’s a Instagram picture of him from Saturday with the caption Quote Villa Park 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 02/04/2022 at 17:45, Xela said: He is France's number 1 left back. He's good enough for us. He shouldn't be as Theo Hernandez is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Are we in for that Hickey do we think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted April 14, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2022 From his Instagram story. Looks promising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 12/04/2022 at 18:56, hippo said: It's not Dignes Fault. Just saying this far it hasn't been a good move for us. In the harsh world of prem football - whose fault it is won't cut much ice. Who knows, we lost loads of games up to Jan with Targett in the team. And while he obviously had an excellent season last year we still didn't win many games between mid of Jan up to May so while I get people are disappointed he's not here to come back in for run in people are acting like he's some world class full back when he's miles off it. Not sure what happens now really, Young does his best as stopgap for a game or two but can't say I'm looking forward to him potentially starting v likes of Man. City and Liverpool, he'll get destroyed in those games unless we come up with some plan to limit the damage. 5 at the back feels logical given he played in that system for Inter although feels like we'd need Mings to play left to help him out and keep Hause central so interested what we do. If it's just a standard flat back 4 with him expected to get up and down the flanks for the full game we're going to massively struggle. And he won't be lasting the full match either. Perhaps we'll try Bailey as LWB v Norwich just to see how it looks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 12/04/2022 at 15:43, duke313 said: He did have every right to leave, as does any player, but the club also have the right to say no. It's now left us in a situation were we will have to play Young or Chrisene in the next match. Would you want to keep a player at the club who is adamant they want to leave? Fair enough if you've talked someone round and they're then happy to stay, but if not, I wouldn't want them around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 5 hours ago, villan-scott said: From his Instagram story. Looks promising. Doesn't look like a broken collar bone. Maybe just bruised. Anyone think he may have a touch of the sturridge about him, thinking injuries are worse than they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Is everyone still crying about Targett leaving? From what I've heard, we forced Newcastle to pay us a massive loan fee and the 15 million pound buy clause makes this essentially a swap on paper of Targett for Digne. Targett sitting on our bench instead of Ashley Young was never going to be the determining factor of whether or not we'd make a push for Europe. Digne is a huge upgrade on him, but unfortunately Slippy G's tactics aren't showing us the best of him. Hopefully we'll see him a bit more of what he is capable of next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 6 hours ago, MrBlack said: Doesn't look like a broken collar bone. Maybe just bruised. Anyone think he may have a touch of the sturridge about him, thinking injuries are worse than they are? Hopefully he's ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 12/04/2022 at 18:56, hippo said: It's not Dignes Fault. Just saying this far it hasn't been a good move for us. In the harsh world of prem football - whose fault it is won't cut much ice. Well yes, but the question is whether it was a bad decision or just bad luck. A future broken collar bone is not something you can anticipate when you sign a player. It’s just one of those things that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 9 hours ago, MrBlack said: Doesn't look like a broken collar bone. Maybe just bruised. Anyone think he may have a touch of the sturridge about him, thinking injuries are worse than they are? I'm wondering if (looking at that photo) does he have his legs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 12/04/2022 at 20:56, hippo said: It's not Dignes Fault. Just saying this far it hasn't been a good move for us. In the harsh world of prem football - whose fault it is won't cut much ice. I've mentioned a few times, I wasn't against getting Digne in, but releasing Targett at the same time was quite stupid IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Might be back for last two games of season Gerrard said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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